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Things that are Needed IN EGGWARS

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by AboodPlayz, Jun 13, 2016.

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Do you want these to be in egg wars

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  2. No

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  3. Some of these only

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  1. AboodPlayz

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    I did make a suggestion on thing to add in eggwars "https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/cubecraft-egg-wars.119437/"
    You don't have to check it out but anyways here are THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED IN EGG WARS

    *World Borders 25-50 blocks behind your island would be a border so players don't go far from render distance and hide there (idk if they fixed this or not and made a limit)
    *Water and Lava buckets You can now mlg water bucket from high places (water goes down 5 blocks from island then doesn't continue down) and use lava buckets for pvp situations {both cannot be placed around any generator}
    *Shrinking "force field" around villager players seem to like behind him to prevent arrows hitting them (arrows should go through the villager)
    *Equal distance from islands to mid no more disadvantages of being a corner island and needing to buy more blocks

    Thanks for reading willing to find out the feed back
     
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    I've never really ran into anyone doing this, but it is annoying for sure, so there certainly needs to be a build limit.
    I think this would be too overpowered, since people could just go to the build limit, water bucket to any island and easily break their egg.
    Using the villager as a shield could be a strategy, so I don't think this should be removed.
    Agreed, players shouldn't have unfair advantages.
     
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    5 blocks limit it won't go all the way down cause trolls will cover their entire island with water/lava and team kill



    It is but sometimes gets really annoying

     
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    I almost never see anyone do this, and when they do, you know you have a bow, TNT, and a compass for a reason. -1
    No, no, no just no. This would change the entire gameplay as it is from now. Although buckets are indeed one of the best items in minecraft, they don't belong to Eggwars -1
    So you just want to let arrows to through the villager? Okay seems reasonable +0.5
    Ehhm this basically means changing all the EggWars maps ever.o_O Yeah not gonna happen soon.(TM)
     
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    1. THEY ADDED COMPASSES !! (MINE BLOWN) sometimes arrows don't reach that far and do what with the tnt {so far 3 players did this trick on me and i had to let a spec tell me where the player was}
    2. i guess not (i can imagine a troll covering the entire base with water/lava
    3. maybe making smaller that it is ONLY around the villager not any extended areas
    4.no not really all they have to do is move the islands that have a straight line to mid backwards a bit to make it equal distance
     
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    Even though it should be a thing, I dont think its even possible to to this without adding another problem.
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    Since you have to use more blocks to build to mid in a diagonal you would have to make the corner islands closer to mid than the straight ones. If this would happen, the distance from red to the middle > distance to green. Why wouldnt red go for green and use their bridge?
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    Red would claim the green island making it even more unfair for green island
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    (Didnt calculate it or anything, correct me if I'm wrong..)
     
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    what i mean is an example is Team green required blocks to build to mid (minimum 50 blocks)
    Team red required amount of blocks (minimum 50 blocks)
    this should make equal distance UNLESS a team makes a unnecessary longer bridge (like building upwards)
     
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    Have you read a single word of what I just said? Sigh
     
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    I did XD
    u said corner islands will need 25 blocks to reach mid but straight islands would need 50
    BUT you need a supporting block to make diagonal bridges
    (this is a block [ ] ) {for cubecraft sake that i can't make spaces --- is just air}
    Diagonal bridges:
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    Straight bridges
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    So making corner islands closer to mid wouldn't make a block amount difference
    Also btw i never seen a eggwars map with a perfect square/rectangle as the mid it is always round (unless the map is a four team map then this idea doesn't needed to be considered
     
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    The distance to mid is not including the support blocks needed to build an actual bridge, in your own example you can see a 1 block on a straight bridge = 1 block closer to mid, which would be 50 blocks distance & 50 blocks needed to build to the middle. 2 blocks on a diagonal bridge = 1 block closer to mid(not exact), which would be 25 blocks distance & 50 blocks needed to build to the middle(because of the support blocks)..This would cause the red rushing green problem stated in my original post
     
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    the total amount of blocks including support blocks (without support blocks it will be unfair amount of blocks used) to start the game either way u need 50 blocks to reach mid if u wish later u can break the support blocks to make it 25 blocks which won't make a difference just the fact that u broke the unneeded blocks either way so still bought 50 blocks and 25 went down the drain
    If you were a hacker with building hacks making u build diagonally without support blocks then it won't be fair
     
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    I like the idea but 25-50 blocks behind the islands is still too much. Some people have their render distance smaller then 10 blocks. So I think thr world border can be closer. Let's say 10 - 15 blocks.?

    I've got a double feeling about it. I like to PvP with water and lava buckets, but there would be people that will troll their teammates and getting reported.

    I don't know if CubeCraft can make this even possible. So a +0.5 for me.
     
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    1. World borders
    this is in game though there's no visible border would be useful though probably annoying to see a giant wall stretching up into the sky

    2. Water and lava buckets
    Changes up the game too much, go up 10 blocks from your egg with a lava bucket and let it all fall down, now they have to wait for it to clear up to get in on the egg, though super apples do give fire res this would still be greatly annoying if they weren't cheap and it would really stretch out the lengths of games, as for water buckets mlg bucketing would help shorten games but the water would again also be really useful for egg defending which is already pretty easy.

    3. Shrinking the village hitbox
    cant be done its just how arrows work, if you used f3+b you can show hitboxes, even the slightest hitbox clipping and the arrow will deflect (if im not wrong i'm pretty sure this is the reason why though)

    4. Equal distance
    as @Sartixir said and made diagrams for, the distance to the middle of the map from each island IS equal, building the path diagonally means double the blocks, which is why most islands on eggwars that are in the corners are around half the distance closer, an example would be on forest how the islands are slightly to the sides yet the red and blue islands are both pushed further back to compensate for the distances that the islands building diagonally have to build in blocks. i would go take screenshots in spectator when i lose next but i cba
     
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    ya the buckets can be used for trolling (if cubecraft wishes they can make this an OP feature and per each bucket is 64 diamonds then i guess it will be okay but again water can only go down 5 blocks and cannot spread as it will only be one block )
    10 blocks is to little some players go 40 blocks away from their island a go behind the enemies so the enemy doesn't notice them

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    I wasn't aware that their were already some borders

    Buckets make them expensive and cannot spread just to be used for pvp/mlg water bucket (and in op mode only)

    I guess it cannot be changed T_T

    I didn't play yet forest i am go try it and see if it is right
    anyway I wish for it to be in other maps as well (this is the reason i always choose straight bridge teams, but i always fell sorry for corner teams)
     
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    1. There is already some kind of border. If you build out from the back of your island, you will get to a point where the block doesn't place and you fall in the void. Also, they have the player trackers so it's less tedious to find players.
    2. I'm not a fan of the water/lava idea. It brings up more problems than it fixes. So many ways for someone to troll their teammates.
    3. Shrinking/removing the hitbox of the villager would probably be difficult to do. There is the actual villager and then there's an armor stand in the same place for the shop hologram. If you really need to hit someone that is behind the villager then find another angle to shoot them at.
    4. Changing the distances between the islands to mid would take major time from the builders as it could mean a complete overhaul of the map. I'm sure that the builders are busy enough with making maps for other things that I doubt something like this would happen.
     
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    Wow making a whole spread sheet on eggwars map

    ..I thought Cubecraft builders actually make the maps not random players or volunteers but it can be a thought for future maps that will be built (not saying it will be easy just would be nicer)

    Water and lava buckets dont spread (using a mod) just to be used in pvp areas just the problem of team trolling (WAIT: why not make this a solo mode feature ONLY and you can buy 1 of each bucket per island)

    I guess it will be every difficult to shrink hit box of villager

    What is the limit of the map ? (if it is too little or to much it wouldn't be that fun)
     
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    1. This seems like a good idea as it can be really annoying when players build out really far but I believe there already is something like this and I've never really had any problems with people doing this.
    2. I feel like water and lava will just make a complete mess of EggWars, these things can also be very overpowered, and the lava can also be used to kill your teammates, so I don't think this would be a good idea.
    3. It would be nice if you could shoot through the villagers, but it's not that big of a problem as you can just move a little and then shoot the person.
    4. I do agree that every islands should have like the same distance from the middle, I believe whenever they're building maps they try to do that as best as they can.
     
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    The biggest problem with the villager is that when your building a bridge to the enemy and the enemies make a wall and hide behind the villager and start shooting you and you can't shoot them (in the angle you are in) which is sometimes annoying
    I just mentioned why not make lava and water buckets a op option in solo mode (only) so there is no team killing and put a mod in so the source blocks can't spread (down/sideways) and 1 purchase per island
     
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    #1 what???