Bedrock double and drag clicking (read before reacting).

[JSCLEVR]

I think it’s time CubeCraft reconsiders the rule on double clicking. I’m not saying to bring back drag clicking — that should stay banned — but double clicking deserves another look.

I’ve been a jitter clicker for a while, but not everyone can jitter comfortably or consistently. Some players get hand strain, some cant jitter at all, others just can’t do it fast enough to keep up. Double clicking gives those players another fair, legitimate method that’s already built into their mouse’s firmware. It’s not an external mod, not tape, not macro software — it’s just how a lot of gaming mice are designed to work now.

The thing is, double clicking doesn’t break the game when kept under a CPS cap of 15 (as it is). It just levels the playing field and opens the door for more competitive PvP again.

Since CubeCraft banned both double and drag clicking, a lot of players have left or lost interest because their natural playstyle got restricted. And because other servers followed CubeCraft’s lead, PvP as a whole feels less varied and less skill-based. Allowing controlled double clicking again could actually bring players back and make CubeCraft’s PvP scene feel alive and more competitive again.

It also gives CubeCraft a chance to stand out — instead of following the same blanket rule everyone else uses, Cubecraft could show it’s willing to balance fairness and competitiveness.

From a moderation view, it’s still simple:
• Keep drag clicking and macros banned.
• Keep CPS limits strict (under 15).
• Detect patterns of abuse, abnormal amount of cps, not single clicks.
(and take a standpoint of if cps goes from 0-16 in one click for example)

That way, everyone wins. The server stays fair, more players return, cubecraft stands out from the other servers, and PvP gets more active and skill-driven again.

What do you guys think? If done right, I really think this could help CubeCraft’s community grow and make PvP more fun for everyone again.

 

[MrSpacee]

So, you saying that players who can drag click (just dragging on button without any modifications) have unfair advantage, but player who using mouse firmware to change mouse's behavior to get 2 clicks in game for every physical click are ok? If so, please explain to me how it wold make pvp more competitive?

 

[Endermanxbox479]

What do you mean "Less skill-based and less varied"? Cubecraft is skill-based, and drag/double-clicking or holding the mouse button while an external program does the work for you (as Eggwars players prefer) has nothing to do with it. The rule was made to prevent PC players from having an advantage over console and mobile players. Personally I don't see fighting people that can't be voided because of amount they're clicking as something cool.

 

[JSCLEVR]

So, you saying that players who can drag click (just dragging on button without any modifications) have unfair advantage, but player who using mouse firmware to change mouse's behavior to get 2 clicks in game for every physical click are ok? If so, please explain to me how it wold make pvp more competitive?

you are adding external ways to mass increase your cps. (tape etc is classed as external). however double clicking is in 95% of gaming mice and it lets players use the mouse how its supposed to be used. console and mobile players majorly disagree with what im saying but most people cant jitter, butterfly is needed with doubles to keep up, but normal clicking players dont enjoy its not how minecraft is supposed to played with. this is not buying or adding additional software to double click its when you buy the mouse. drag clicking if you buy tape you are adding EXTRAS onto the mouse.

So, you saying that players who can drag click (just dragging on button without any modifications) have unfair advantage, but player who using mouse firmware to change mouse's behavior to get 2 clicks in game for every physical click are ok? If so, please explain to me how it wold make pvp more competitive?

and just to add on to my point im not quite sure you know how double clicking works, its not like every time you click it registers 2 cps. you have to hit the mouse in a way that your finger clicks twice and the mouse registers it within the short time (makes it no delay). so then you get what you actually clicked drag clicking on the other side is getting tons of cps by adding things on such as tape etc.

What do you mean "Less skill-based and less varied"? Cubecraft is skill-based, and drag/double-clicking or holding the mouse button while an external program does the work for you (as Eggwars players prefer) has nothing to do with it. The rule was made to prevent PC players from having an advantage over console and mobile players. Personally I don't see fighting people that can't be voided because of amount they're clicking as something cool.

let me just say its not an external program, its what has come with the mouse you buy its not illegal modifications. to get a double click you need to click in in a certain way. its not a cheat its just your mouse having no delay for legitimate clicks.

What do you mean "Less skill-based and less varied"? Cubecraft is skill-based, and drag/double-clicking or holding the mouse button while an external program does the work for you (as Eggwars players prefer) has nothing to do with it. The rule was made to prevent PC players from having an advantage over console and mobile players. Personally I don't see fighting people that can't be voided because of amount they're clicking as something cool.

and this is why i have also stated in the forum keep drag banable and keep the cps cap limited it makes everything more fair for everyone.

 

[Legowars10]

Hi @JSCLEVR!
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Edit: Resolved by a moderator

 

[JSCLEVR]

Hi @JSCLEVR!
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P.S. Multi quote can be enabled by using the "Quote" button instead of "Reply"

ahh i see my bad

 

[kora]

you are adding external ways to mass increase your cps. (tape etc is classed as external). however double clicking is in 95% of gaming mice and it lets players use the mouse how its supposed to be used. console and mobile players majorly disagree with what im saying but most people cant jitter, butterfly is needed with doubles to keep up, but normal clicking players dont enjoy its not how minecraft is supposed to played with. this is not buying or adding additional software to double click its when you buy the mouse. drag clicking if you buy tape you are adding EXTRAS onto the mouse.

Don't make up statistics to win an argument, that's just misleading. Double clicking is a feature mostly found in lower quality mice. Why? Because it is a hardware ISSUE. not a feature. Most high-end gaming mice don't have it because they don't appeal to Minecraft sweats at the cost of ruining the mouse for everyone else. Also the argument of 'it comes with the mouse so its not illegal' is stupid. there are mice that have a built in autoclicker, just because the manufacturer built it in doesn't mean it should be legal. You also tell people they don't know how double clicking works and then misinform them. When you double click, your finger does not hit the mouse twice. you simply hit the mouse once in such a way that the sensors mess up and register it as two. And yes. People do use external firmware to adjust the debounce delay to make it possible to double click. Please do your research before trying to correct others.

 

[JSCLEVR]

Don't make up statistics to win an argument, that's just misleading. Double clicking is a feature mostly found in lower quality mice. Why? Because it is a hardware ISSUE. not a feature. Most high-end gaming mice don't have it because they don't appeal to Minecraft sweats at the cost of ruining the mouse for everyone else. Also the argument of 'it comes with the mouse so its not illegal' is stupid. there are mice that have a built in autoclicker, just because the manufacturer built it in doesn't mean it should be legal. You also tell people they don't know how double clicking works and then misinform them. When you double click, your finger does not hit the mouse twice. you simply hit the mouse once in such a way that the sensors mess up and register it as two. And yes. People do use external firmware to adjust the debounce delay to make it possible to double click. Please do your research before trying to correct others.

explain to me how all the top brands have double clicking as an option. its using your mouse to its full potential. some mice have auto clicker but that's not valid in this argument we are talking about a debounce slider, and yes you do click the mouse in a certain way that you hit it within a certain time frame TWICE. don't be telling me to be doing my research when you clearly have not being doing any either, every mouse has a basic static delay before registering the clicks, by moving the debounce to the lowest setting your removing that delay. its simply not external software. Its 2025 95% of GAMING mice do have a debounce slider. And please explain how it would ruin the mouse for everyone else you can use the debounce slider however you want, please don't get all rude for no reason without doing your own research first.

 

[kora]

explain to me how all the top brands have double clicking as an option. its using your mouse to its full potential. some mice have auto clicker but that's not valid in this argument we are talking about a debounce slider, and yes you do click the mouse in a certain way that you hit it within a certain time frame TWICE. don't be telling me to be doing my research when you clearly have not being doing any either, every mouse has a basic static delay before registering the clicks, by moving the debounce to the lowest setting your removing that delay. its simply not external software. Its 2025 95% of GAMING mice do have a debounce slider. And please explain how it would ruin the mouse for everyone else you can use the debounce slider however you want, please don't get all rude for no reason without doing your own research first.

give me a source for that 95 percent and ill shut up

 

[JSCLEVR]

give me a source for that 95 percent and ill shut up

you can do that research yourself, im not google

 

[kora]

you can do that research yourself, im not google

Fully grown man btw