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About The Controversial Updates...

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Donald Trump, Aug 26, 2016.

  1. Donald Trump

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    I know you must be thinking, another one... but please just read this thread.

    Today, I will be comparing key aspects of the three controversial updates; 1.9, the new punishment system, and the Private Reports.

    Green = Good
    Yellow = Neutral
    Red = Negative

    Key Aspect #1: Support from Active Forum Members

    1.9: High, most active forum members agreed to the change and wanted to embrace the new features in 1.9.
    NPS: Minimal, many active forum members did not agree to giving players an easy second chance.
    PR: Split, some players see it as good while others do not.

    Key Aspect #2: Who Made Opposition Threads?

    1.9:
    Random Players, they have never been seen on the forums before and made an account just to oppose it.
    NPS: AFMs, they know about the changes and do not agree with any of them.
    PR: AFMs, they spark argument and has caused some of the community to turn against the management team.

    Key Aspect #3: Who Does this Benefit?

    1.9:

    - Staff: It allowed reports to get under control and allowed developers to make cool new updates!
    - 1.9-Friendly Members: It allowed a major server to have 1.9 PvP, which is not expressed in other large servers.
    NPS:
    - Rulebreakers: Gives them an easy 2nd chance, ruining the fun for lots of members.
    PR:
    No players

    Key Aspect #4: Who Does this Hurt?

    1.9:

    - 1.8-Friendly Members - Many of these members went to other servers, or halted playing this server until 1.8 mode was released
    - Rule breakers- Created a temporary hiatus in all hackers on the server
    NPS:
    - Staff, who have had to deal with a vastly increased amount of reports
    - Members, who have had to deal with a much larger amount of hackers
    PR:
    - Staff, who will have to deal with more reports
    - Members, who can't add more evidence and have to make a new thread.
    - Rulebreakers, who can't view their evidence. This would cause them to get mad and leave the server, which seems like a good thing but that means people who are sorry would also leave and not appeal.
    - Commenters, this may seem like a good thing because it's currently against the rules; but as usual they only think what is good for the staff team in the short term. They could have used this to their advantage, if a player commented something correct a staff member could just lock it rather than having to respond.

    Key Aspect #5: Publicity of the Update

    1.9:

    - Tried to express this in every way
    NPS:
    - Tried to hide this, not saying that the new punishment for hacking is a week so the community doesn't get angry, which backfired, as usual.
    PR:
    - Doesn't really apply.
     
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    Might not be a good idea to bring up multiple of these in one thread :p Private reports benefits staff as they won't have to deal with me commenting on reports anymore :p and its cool to count how many reports you have and how many actually got answered :D
     
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    Hope fully it will all work out. I trust in Cubecraft to do the best of their abilities to make positive changes for the server!
     
  4. Donald Trump

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    You could always go to Your Profile ---> Information ---> All Threads ---> And Count There
     
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    Private reports will benefit the whole community since no players will reply to reports. Also, it benefits the persons who report. Let's say I see a very loved player of the community swearing, I report him and he gets muted, after that, everybody will hate on me cause I reported him. Now the reports are kinda anonymous, only staff sees who is reporting.
     
  6. Donald Trump

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    A lot of players seem to be missing this:
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    They could always add an option for Anonymous Report. It will default to No.
     
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    But, what is the problem with private reports? I dont see any con?
     
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    Lol who cares? It's his/her fault for being salty or mad (cuz bad) A reported guy is a reported guy. No matter how well-known he is. You should just ignore all the hate OR

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    Cons:
    - No searching for other reports, so some players will be reported more
    - Can't add more evidence to a thread, so a new one has to be made
    - Can't view the report thread, so rule breakers can't view non-video evidence.
     
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    So what you're trying to say is that the new punishment system should be adjusted and maybe the private reports, because if you are trying to say that, I will agree a 100%.
     
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    Didn't see any Hacker all day.... Except the ones that I wanted to see.. @Diogu ;)
    The new punishment system isn't that bad... It also isn't perfect...
    I do agree a little bit with the Report section... Now I cant see who got reported.... How many reports someone has and add Evidence....
    So yeah....
     
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    Personally I see 1.9 as a positive thing. Not many big servers have 1.9 AND 1.8 pvp, so this makes Cubecraft quite unique.
    I do not like the new punishments system. I feel that hackers are still hackers and for me, banning them for one week is just a bit too light.
    I like the new reports section. I can now see which threads I need to bump as it is hard to find in the threads created section.
     
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    Yes, they PM the staff member and the staff links the YT vid.
     
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    You should still be able to use the search function in the top right corner of the page (next to your name).
     
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    I honestly think that a one week ban for first offense hackers is not harsh enough. If the average hacker got banned, they will start hacking again immeadiatly after their ban.
    Or report the hate ;).
     
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    That was meant as a general statement, by no means is that everyone :p
    I said NON-video, which means it's screenshots that are required for proof.
    I meant it as:
    1.9- Positive
    Punish- Negative
    Reports- Neutral-Negative

    Also, you could always click on Information on your profile page and check all of your threads there.

    An alternative is that they could have an option:

    Show all Reports
    Show Only Your Reports
    Show Reports of You + People you Follow
     
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    I know you could do that but I prefer the new way. Also helpers don't really need to inform people of commenting on reports as they can't so I think this makes their job easier.
     
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    If you read my original posts, I suggested a way to make the people who commented beneficial to the thread.
     
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    Have other Minecraft updates been controversial?