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Morgan_Ladimore

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Okay, so some things in KitPvP really need to change...

- First of all, spawning on high ledges is a pointless hazard. Get rid of it.

- Add 1v1 arenas, with special, equal kits, and maybe with rating. Players will receive 10 points for winning, and lose 10 for losing. If the points vary, the points lost and won will go from 4 to 16.

- Pyro, Wizard, Alchemist and Horseman kits need some bonuses. They're pretty weak without donations.

- Add a way to buy better kits. Non-donators have a mortifying disadvantage.
 

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1) High ledges aren't really a problem, it adds levels to the game, if the whole map was flat it would just be boring.

2) The point of KIT PVP is so everyone fights with everyone, 1v1 arenas would have to be an entirely different game.

3) I think the kits are fine, the Level 1 kits could use 1 god apple though. Horseman does need a bit more, and Wizard could possibly use a wooden axe, but overall I think Pyro & Alchemist are fine.

4) The point of donor advantages is to give thanks to people that have donated to help keep the server up. We have an in-game shop in KIT PVP where you can purchase individual items for a one-time use, the items include enched diamond armour and swords, god apples, and a variety of potions.. All ranks have access to this shop and Stones can be just as OP as other donors as they have the ability to purchase these items with their points.
 

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1) High ledges aren't really a problem, it adds levels to the game, if the whole map was flat it would just be boring.
I didn't mean to remove the mountains, just to modify the spawn points. Spawning on top of a few blocks is really stupid, but of course I didn't mean that mountains should be removed.

2) The point of KIT PVP is so everyone fights with everyone, 1v1 arenas would have to be an entirely different game.
Entirely different? Why is that? All it needs is a special teleport to a small other part. Big deal.

4) The point of donor advantages is to give thanks to people that have donated to help keep the server up. We have an in-game shop in KIT PVP where you can purchase individual items for a one-time use, the items include enched diamond armour and swords, god apples, and a variety of potions.. All ranks have access to this shop and Stones can be just as OP as other donors as they have the ability to purchase these items with their points.
Sure, but once you lose them (ex. to teaming donators or just swarming), you're back to square one, while donators can do anything with the kits. And please, do not mention the "to keep the server up reason" because I'm fully aware of that.
 

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I didn't mean to remove the mountains, just to modify the spawn points. Spawning on top of a few blocks is really stupid, but of course I didn't mean that mountains should be removed.


Entirely different? Why is that? All it needs is a special teleport to a small other part. Big deal.


Sure, but once you lose them (ex. to teaming donators or just swarming), you're back to square one, while donators can do anything with the kits. And please, do not mention the "to keep the server up reason" because I'm fully aware of that.


Entirely different as in a different gameplay, it's not really what KIT PVP is about...

Also, with the spawn points, I'm not sure I understand what you mean? We have different spawn points on buildings, ground level, mountains is because if everyone spawned on the ground it would be boring and would be like Survival Games, if the spawn points really bug you so much, if you're a donor you can choose a specified spawn point.

With the kits, we're not going to give out super OP items to Stones, but the point of having the shop is so Stones have the opportunity to be just as strong as other donors, I don't see what the problem is if they actually have the opportunity to be just as OP as other donors, yes obviously they are going to lose the items once they die but there's a lesser chance of them dying if they have the same level gear as donors.. We give donors special advantages to say thanks, and if we gave Stones the same items, it just wouldn't be the same. I don't mind having some kits purchasable by points for Stones, as long as they aren't to OP.
 

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Entirely different as in a different gameplay, it's not really what KIT PVP is about...
Its just a 1v1 small arena with another teleport... is it really that complicated?
Also, with the spawn points, I'm not sure I understand what you mean? We have different spawn points on buildings, ground level, mountains is because if everyone spawned on the ground it would be boring and would be like Survival Games, if the spawn points really bug you so much, if you're a donor you can choose a specified spawn point.
I wouldn't have made this suggestion if I was a donor. Some spawn points are atrocious. What's not to understand? Ex. Spawning on Snowman's nose I get pushed every time by some noob with the knockback stick. Same thing happens on the other mountain spawn, near the forest part. Its fine for donators to pick their spawnpoint, but can't we just get down from the hub by a water stream or something?
With the kits, we're not going to give out super OP items to Stones, but the point of having the shop is so Stones have the opportunity to be just as strong as other donors, I don't see what the problem is if they actually have the opportunity to be just as OP as other donors, yes obviously they are going to lose the items once they die but there's a lesser chance of them dying if they have the same level gear as donors.. We give donors special advantages to say thanks, and if we gave Stones the same items, it just wouldn't be the same. I don't mind having some kits purchasable by points for Stones, as long as they aren't to OP.
Purchasing at least Kit Rank 2 will suffice.
 

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Its just a 1v1 small arena with another teleport... is it really that complicated?

It's not really what KIT PVPs about, which is what I am trying to stress to you.

I wouldn't have made this suggestion if I was a donor. Some spawn points are atrocious. What's not to understand? Ex. Spawning on Snowman's nose I get pushed every time by some noob with the knockback stick. Same thing happens on the other mountain spawn, near the forest part. Its fine for donators to pick their spawnpoint, but can't we just get down from the hub by a water stream or something?

Honestly, it's not a big deal. So you spawn on a high point, just jump down? Like I said before, if everyone spawned on the same level, it would be boring.

Purchasing at least Kit Rank 2 will suffice.

I wouldn't mind that.
 

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It's not really what KIT PVPs about, which is what I am trying to stress to you.
I am just saying that it wouldn't hurt for a 1v1 arena to be added too... This could be a great thing for tournaments. I could have a chance to win a donator rank that way.

It's not really what KIT PVPs about, which is what I am trying to stress to you.
Honestly, it's not a big deal. So you spawn on a high point, just jump down? Like I said before, if everyone spawned on the same level, it would be boring.
I sometimes don't even get a chance to move. I get pushed right off the bat. Maybe just some small closed space at the spawn point that prevents at least pushing off, like the cave near the lava pool?
 
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