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Why cant G-Cheat be implemented into cubecraft

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by S41F, Sep 2, 2016.

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  1. S41F

    S41F Member

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    I do not think there is a game that can stop cubecraft from implementing G-Cheat into the network. If there are games then please tell me

    Also do you guys think g cheat will be a good idea and should it be added to the network???

    I think it is a good idea as it will stop the amount of hackers. Maybe not as harsh punishments from G-Cheat but still it may be good to have an auto banning bot such as hyproxy and memplex

    If it can't, why not
     
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    Who or what is G-Cheat?

    A new anti-cheat is on the developers their to-do list.
     
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    Badlion's top-notch anticheat. For a Minecraft anticheat, it's one of the best and it can detect all clients.
     
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    G cheat is one of the best anticheats in minecraft and is almost impossible to bypass
     
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    It is, though only for a short time. Turn on low-key hacks (low reach/CPS kill aura) and it should last a bit longer. Though Cube stated that it doesn't want to copy plugins, I'd want to see a similar Gcheat as the new anticheat.
     
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    Definitely I agree stop these fly hacks and antiknockback
     
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    The good news is that it blocks xray, though it causes a lot of lag in the process. According to xTurtle's videos, it blocks the obvious hacks like flight and healthtags but not anti-KB and kill aura.
     
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    My friend used AntiKB on badlion on when I went to his house and I think he got permanent banned
     
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    I think that comes with an IP ban after some time. How long did it take for GCheat to detect anti-KB?
     
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    Good funny 20 min. I won't download hacks. I'm too scared ill get a virus on my mac lol. U like my title SPELLING?
     
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    yeah i would love this coz hackers really annoy me :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
    SSK101:cube:
     
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    this makes the server loose players
     
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    Server +publicity= money and hackers
     
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    As any anti cheat there's always a way around these anti cheat. Hackers are smart. Take the new Mineplex anti cheat Gwen. One day after the "release" boom found a loop hole around it. No anti cheat will be the best.

    Back on topic:

    I'm sorry but CubeCraft doesn't copy other plugin from other servers. A new anti-cheat is currently in the works.

    Anti-Cheat: http://imgur.com/VjQ6B3q
     
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    watchdog is better than gwen and gj im my opnion :/
     
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    The thing about anti-cheat systems that have an auto-banning bot, it has a fairly decent chance (from what I've seen) of banning innocent players.
     
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    Not really. A VERY good one like GCheat won't falsely ban innocent players. These "innocent" players claim to be innocent just to lie on appeals. As far as I know, if a player is banned, he/she must have done something wrong to trigger the cheat detector. What if he/she has an autoclicker? What would you say about that then?

    For Mineplex's GWEN, it's because the player attacked an invisible entity. This leads to false bans.

    Even a mod on this server admitted to using an autoclicker over there and initially lied on his appeal. Surprised?

    Let's look at it this way. There's a punishment system on one server. What does it need to be good? Rules, something to further enforce the rules, and punishment times.

    Humans alone can't catch everything even though humans are supposedly better than bots. It's very inefficient to have a punishment system solely rely on reports only. The bot lessens some of that work. Of course, reports still stay just in case the bot misses a few spots.
     
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    G-Cheat on badlion can detect various hit detection. One example of the codes that gets sent will be shown here:
    2014-11-29-3 [07:15:51] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe] [Stronnix] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[179] [07:15:52] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe] [PLAYER] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[153]
    [07:15:53] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe] [PLAYER] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[115]
    [07:15:54] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe] [PLAYER] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[110]
    [07:15:55] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe] [PLAYER] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[163]
    [07:15:57] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe] [PLAYER] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[91]
    [07:15:58] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe] [PLAYER] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[131]
    [07:15:59] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe][PLAYER] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[102]
    [07:16:00] [f98e077e-d3c4-44e7-9ebd-632458d31afe] [PLAYER] is using Autoclicker Type A VL[138]

    Although G-Cheat is good, it can be easily bypassed. (I wont be providing how it will be bypassed.)
     
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    yea true come on cubecraft your smart people not dumb like all the other servers your smart people just report them plugins are not very well were adults not kids like all the other servers :/
     
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    Reports should work in tandem with a cheat detector though if more cheaters are to be banned for good. Let's have a scenario:

    We have 2 servers: server A and server B. Server A is your average server with a decent anticheat (no cheat detector, relies solely on reports) and server B is a server with an excellent cheat detector and anticheat but does not have a report system. Let's see what server A and B do against hackers:

    Server A relies solely on player reports to ban hackers. No reports = no bans, other than those handed out from staff in-game. We can say that reports currently take a VERY long time without tagging a staff member to look at them. During that time, the cheater can cause a lot of chaos and/or move to another server before being banned.

    Server B automatically bans caught cheaters but does not have a report system. However, an automatic system like that means the cheaters will eventually learn to bypass that. This will make the cheat detector redundant without any way to have players report them, since no players will be banned thanks to workarounds. Also, reports are another way of determining how well the server is doing against hackers.

    To @Orangeric88: This is why we have reports supplement the cheat detector. Reports serve as "bug reports," telling the devs to further improve a certain area of the anticheat.
     
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