Java No Void EggWars...? Really?

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  1. TheFastBowler

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    Note: You can see this as a rant thread, constructive criticism or whatever. I think it is a bit ranty but I have described my points in detail which is constructive criticism, because I do truly feel that No Void EggWars is one of the worst concepts ever thought of.

    Okay, so I played the new Experimental EggWars without the void. Here’s my honest opinion on it. I’ve discussed it with some friends as well. In my view, it’s the worst idea I’ve ever seen. It’s absolutely horrible.


    Can someone please tell me who’s idea was it?


    Who was in charge of making this decision?


    Why the hell did you go through with it?


    Do you even conduct market research before releasing something like this?


    Generally speaking, my opinion on the concept of Experimental EggWars is that it should be scrapped. Fix the standard game that brought you the success that Cube later killed of course (20k → 2k), rather than experimenting by adding another egg or just removing the void. Are you kidding me? Who’s idea was this?? Next thing we know, there’ll be no islands!? After that, they’ll just remove the egg or who knows, add 4 eggs? What is wrong with you guys?


    There are so many problems with this game. It is absolutely annoying and stupid to play. I would rather play Blockband than No Void EggWars.


    Now, you’ve gotten rid of the void. Dumb. But you’ve done it anyway. And there’s water on one map, and lava on the other. And the maps have so much space to run, and nowhere to hide. There’s just land everywhere. You take a left, you take a right, you can run circles around the entire map endlessly.





    With enough blocks, I can keep doing this endlessly. Not to mention, fighting in water is the most annoying PvP situation in Minecraft.

    And when it comes to the middle, there is just too much area to run. Players can run forever, and ever, and ever, because the entire map is just one big island now isn’t it? There are some obstacles for sure, water, lava but that’s about it. And if you do what I just did there with a bit more skill, you can easily keep running forever and the opponent will endlessly have to chase you. I’ve played 6 games of this nonsense and in every single of them, there has been a runner who I’ve had to chase for at least 3-4 minutes before I could finally reach them, start attacking, only for them to run away again and the process repeats itself until one of us runs out of food.


    What’s more, the fact that you’ve decided to just eliminate the void makes this game almost no different than FFA. Yeah, there are differences, but it’s basically FFA and sometimes your opponent has much better armour than you. They can run anywhere, and a fight is basically won by the person who either has more patience to run after each other or the person who has more golden apples. It’s crap. It’s literal crap. The entire gameplay is ruined by removing the void.


    Not the mention, the maps are really horrible. I’ve not seen such poor quality maps on CubeCraft ever before. There is very little indication of where the centre is on both the maps, the layout sucks, and of course as mentioned, players can run circles so easily, and on that sorry excuse for a map called Mario, you can block place on water and completely avoid fighting. This is a goddamn PvP game yet this gamemode has completely encouraged people to run and make the game experience ever more annoying than ever. So this is what PvP is? This is what EggWars is? Just endless running, no proper PvP. The standard EggWars maps themselves have little to no room/poor terrain to PvP on, but that’s a topic for a different thread, and these maps completely discourage PvP, and allow people to run endlessly anywhere they like. The void is replaced by land, and of course, some water and lava.


    Yes, water. What the hell? Fighting in water is the worst PvP experience any human can go through. To combine it with Cubelag and people who don’t want to fight yet play a PvP based game and keep on running, water is absolutely hell. You just cannot PvP in water. Period. You cannot get criticals, and you cannot even get combos as people get knocked back and then swimming to them takes a while. One would think that you’d at least put depth strider on the boots but no. CubeCraft wants to continue ruining the experience for their 10% remaining playerbase.




    Thanks to @HackersDontWin for sharing the video.

    This clearly displays how annoying water fights can be. Just watch the first minute or two, and you’ll realise how drastically the gameplay is different from standard EggWars, and it’s different...not in a good way.


    Most generators are of fairly high level. And giving such easy access to islands, of course has eliminated camping. Good? Yes, I like that you’ve done that, but it’s not good enough. Players can get geared faster than you can kill them. It’s literally super easy to get geared. The entire concept of mid rushing and rushing to other islands is gone. In other words, you’ve basically destroyed the concept of EggWars with removing the void. All the strategies and the gameplay that was, is not visible whatsoever. In every single game I’ve played, each one has lasted easily more than 15 minutes, and in every game, at least two people have managed to acquire diamond armour, which means that it’s so easy for those people to get gear who used to camp earlier on their island with a bow, and get full diamond armour. Those people now can just take a stroll over to mid,get diamonds so easily, get diamond armour and then what? They can continuously run around the map and never get caught. FUN RIGHT?


    I also noticed something quite minor. It could be a bug, but I cannot fathom why lava does not do damage to armour. Anyway you’ve made it so bloody easy for people to run and avoid taking damage, now you’re making them invincible? Lava does 0 damage to armour? Ridiculous…


    An enormous downside that I think pretty much everyone can agree on, is that there is no way of slowing players down, except for water. Which can be evaded.


    Renaming this concept and adding it to Cube, but be visually different, can possibly be a thing.

    But because it is too similar too FFA, it is not logical that it will exist at all.

    I personally don’t enjoy it, nor do my friends. And other people that I have asked their opinions on.

    The only players who have responded positively, were tryhards that only see the game as an XP-Farm, and go for leaderboards, which I think is quite an evident thing.

    The only real positive I've seen from this is that there's a new waiting lobby which is cooler than the existing one.

    To conclude, adding more eggs or removing the void isn’t going to fix the pre-existing problems and vivid flaws in Cubecraft - especially in EggWars - and it certainly isn’t going to keep your players around or get you new ones. I think you should be focusing on things that are more important, and fix the game that you originally made and make that better, don’t just get rid of the void for god’s sake.

    Thanks to @Chum Chum for his opinions and help on the thread too.

    @larswijn @DidntKnowThat @iConfueZ @Orangeric88
     
  2. Nikoshka

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    Eh yeah, sorry Cube.
    You kinda made moneywalls/walls but without the fun bits (Zombies, wither skeleton, preparation time ready for battle, walls to stop people from running endlessly.)
    Just re-add MoneyWalls without the bugs and add more exciting events and challenges... rather than endless battles of water.
     
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    they took being original too far
     
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    You are %100 right^^
     
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    Thaaank you very much for tagging me.

    > I *totally* agree with you.

    > I dislike the show-casing videos. I think you can just take 3 minutes of Alex's video, plus the one-minute water-run by you, an call it a day.

    > I genuinely think that this game should be removed, and the main focus should be on improving Egg Wars, and the quality of life of players.
     
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    Also, resetting the stats doesn't help.
     
  7. SP00N

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    Tbh, they should've made a new game with no void, cool features and another way to get items (armor, sword, etc) instead of just removing void from EggWars. THIS is not EggWars at all. SkyWars without void isn't SkyWars; same with EggWars.
    You just can't make a new gamemode by removing the void from a game.
    I'd be better if they had added a completely different game with no void and other features
     
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    Cube is beyond saving anyway. It's only downhill. I wouldn't even try anymore.
     
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    An idea with potential done as wrongly as possible.
     
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    First off
    So you're saying that experimental eggwars is a bad thing ? Cube is dying, they know that. What would the better plan be ?
    Update an already pretty optimized gamemode which you can either f up by updating or bring in no new players by fixing small things that only please the diehard ew fans.
    or
    Try out new things and risk some players not liking it but having the chance to find something new and popping.

    on topic
    I actually like this more than normal eggwars. Probably because I'm more about the pvp than the strategic part of eggwars. In normal eggwars I find bridging, campers, setting up the same way every game and upgrading your gens the most boring things ever. None of that in no void. There's more action and less need to spend time on your generators.
    I agree with the water being absolutely stupid.
    About the running away. It is not that difficult at all to catch up. I don't get your anger against this. Running away has always been a part of minecraft pvp, watch minecraft hunger games that game basically is trying to escape eachother. It was never a problem there. I've never had people being able to survive longer than 2 minutes if they just run (unless they go swimming).
    Ye thats probably why me and other FFA players like this.
    That's basically all what I wanted to say.
     
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    No Void Eggwars is just: 'You're not good at PvP? Then get out of here you don't stand a chance.'

    I played one game and I ended up with 1 of my teammate, and 2 tryharders one of them being a laggy person.
    Didn't stand a chance. If there was a void I'd have a chance and could've just tried pushing them in. As I said. If you're not good at PvP. You don't stand a chance. Not even a little one.


    Edit: Everyone's comparing it to FFA but no void EggWars is basically Assassinations but with an egg.
     
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    Yup. And if you're bad at PvP, you will just keep running until you run out of food. After that, get ready to get rekt by the good PvPer.
     
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    I'm actually in love with this new game mode. Most of the time, if I die, I fall in the void. Also by mistake, but that's just me.
    Although, Cube wouldn't copy anything.
     
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    CubeCraft gives the new players a chance to reach a high level like the leaderboard
    Because the situation becomes dull frankness in all saliva is impossible to reach new or old 3 months or 2 months ago to leaderboard skywars or eggwars
     
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    Oh yes no that's totally the reason of these games. And we totally haven't already suggested a million times for another way to give new players a chance.
    Pfft.
     
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    I did not ask for your opinion :)

     
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    This is a platform for people to share their opinions. I recommend you respect everyone else's just as well as you hold yours in high regard.
     
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    I also like it, but.. I wouldn't call a game with no void 'EggWars':
     
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    I can agree, kinda
     
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    if u don't like it just don't play it -.- plus i do know a lot of people who actually like that mode and i am one of them
     
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