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Cubecraft tried to balance Poison Potions but not really - Assassins

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by TheJeroen, Jul 6, 2016.

  1. TheJeroen

    TheJeroen Member

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    Some of you guys know my previous thread: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/assassins-suggestion-remove-this-stupid-poison-potion.120596/
    I got annoyed as hell by these no-skilled people that have to focus full Diamond/Iron guys with Splash Potion of Poison because otherwise they can't win.

    So what did Cubecraft do to try to ''Balance'' this item. You could basicly say nothing.
    Yes if you enter /shop you can buy a Milk Bucket for 3 Points, but this doesn't help me at all.

    1. Being prepared someone will use this cheap way to win.
    9/10 times I'm not prepared for once of these people. I don't have any milk, and if I do it's not in my hotbar. If you try to get it in your HB then you most likely got hit twice already ending up almost dead.
    2. Outspamming the Milk Bucket.
    Some people playing Assassins apparently LITERALLY only use potions to win. This is the worst part: The guy throws a potion, Player 2 Drinks Milk and guess what? Player 1 keeps throwing Poison Potions until Player 2 Ran out of Milk and kills him that way wich requires 0,1% skill.
    3. It costs Server Points.
    Why. WHY. Was is so hard to just make it available in the Food Shop or something! If I'm playing Assassins I want to get points by killing people to get some points to buy kits. I do NOT want to buy this Milk Bucket just because some people can't win without potions.
    4. IT'S TOO OVERPOWERED.
    As mentioned by my first suggestion to remove this cheap potion this potion is TOO strong. There are people abusing the fact this potion does so much damadge. If you aren't near a shop entrance 10 Blocks away from you you are dead. If you are being poisoned in a building with 1 entrance: You are dead. ARE you in 10 blocks of a shop but there is a guy preventing you from entering: YOU ARE DEAD. Are you being poisoned and the enemy has Speed II: YOU ARE DEAD.

    I literally went to log out of the Assassins Map: Trees to join the Map Desert. I had full Iron, Dia Chest, Dia Sword and lots of stuff.
    I spawned in the Desert map with my loot, walk up to a guy (I HAD NO MILK AND WAS AWAY FROM A SHOP) he throws a Poison Potion, his friend hits me once with a WOODEN SWORD and I'm DEAD. That's right. I joined the map for like 5 seconds and ALL MY STUFF was gone because someone had to play cheap because they can't play.

    Just change this potion already!!
    1. Nerf the Potion.
    2. Make Milk buyable with Assassins Coins.

    And my favorite change I'd love to see:
    3. Just remove this potion from the game and make it NEVER return.


    9/10 Times people still end up having no Milk probably and even IF the Potion gets nerfed it will kill full Diamonds.
    Just do something better then making Milk buyable in the shop for 3 Points!
     
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    Pls suggestion 3, just remove it. I had yesterday a kid that throwed 1 poison potion + 2 damage potions and I died, I coudnd't do anything. The poison potion just ruins the game ;-;
     
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    I say that they only need to remove Instant damage pots
    I Can survive a potion of possion easy
     
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    tbh I have never seen anybody use the Harming Potion
     
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    if you have dia are there a lot of kids who spams that pot and 1pot gives you 2,5 hearth damage
     
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    This is how I lost my chain chest plate please remove this.....
     
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    @iLoveYouu Can you please explain why instant damage needs to be removed and possion not
     
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    I agree, the poison potion is wayy too op. I really wouldn't mind seeing it removed completely. +1 ;)
     
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    Not being prepared for these people is your own mistake, be sure to always have a milk bucket in your hotbar and try to have a (couple) golden apple(s) or regen II potion in your hotbar. I agreed it used to be extremely overpowered back when you couldn't keep your stuff when you wanted to log out and when there weren't any milk buckets. Now it seems fairly easy to counter poison potions though. Countering poison with a poison potion is also quite effective, this would make the guy who poisoned you in the first place have to deal with his own poison and he won't be able to fight you.
    As said above I would suggest to use something that will give you your health back, like golden apples, regen potions or health potions.
    It would be nice if they added the milk buckets to the food shop as well, but I think it's really useful that they are in the /store, because you can acces this store whenever you want, wherever you want.
    I agree that this potion is too cheap for what it does, so I'd suggest that they up the price to 100-150 coins. Just try not to get in situation where you could get cornered and easily die, if someone poisons you it's quite difficult for them to actually deal knockback to you as they must hit whenever you're not taking poison damage. So it can't be too difficult to run back into the shop if you get poisoned 10 blocks away from the shop.

    1. Nerfing isn't really necessary, I just feel like they should make the potion a bit more expensive like I said earlier.
    2. That would be a nice addition to the food shop, however I'd love for it to stay in the /store as you can acces it everywhere and it only costs 3 points which you get back after killing 3 people.
    3. Poison has been a part of the game for a long time and it's not too difficult to counter. I do however think they should remove instant damage from the potion shop, this potion deals 3 hearts of damage on players with any type of gear if you hit them right. This potion costs 20 coins and it would take 4 of them to be able to kill a full diamond guy, that's only 80 coins even though full diamond costs around 1700 coins, quite unfair if you ask me. If you use poison and instant damage right, it's quite easy to kill diamond players. I feel like only having poison isn't that big of a problem though, we also don't want to make it impossible for non geared players to kill players who have better gear.
     
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    ^ just this
     
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    Poison is too op... +1 to either taking it out of the game, reducing its potency or making milk more obtainable.
     
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    Milk is extremely easy obtainable, you can do /shop or /store whenever you want and wherever you are and you can buy milk. It is extremely cheap as well, it only costs 3 points.
     
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    It's 3 points, that's equal to 3 kills in any FFA gamemode, if you win like one game of basically any other gamemode you get 30 points. 30 points will be able to get you 10 buckets of milk, I think it isn't that big of a problem, but I personally also said that it would be nice if they added a milk bucket to the food shop, so people don't have to spend their points.