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So simple? Yet ignored? Is there a reason? + Half rant

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by ThatGrimCreeper, May 19, 2017.

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  1. ThatGrimCreeper

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    For all of you that saw the recent CCGN stream, in the last game some fly hacker went around destroying every single egg (except their own). This thread is not a rant about the AC, that would just be wasting my time only to get the same old generic useless answers.

    Simple solution?

    Instead, I feel there is a simple way to stop fly hackers ruining a game before it even starts. Why not put a block above your head? Before I get screamed at for missing something, I have searched similar questions with no results, this is why I am asking here :) http://prntscr.com/f9tj9f

    Blocks are already surrounding you in Survival games, but why not Eggwars. I know this has already been suggested before, but it seems to have been forgotten, this is the purpose of making this thread. Is there a reason why this suggestion cannot be completed (such as issues with code etc)?

    I would also like to quote someone:
    Yes, this suggestion may mean adding extra blocks to every Eggwars map (unless there is some amazing world edit command that can complete the task), but it would save so many people from starting a game without an egg because a fly hacker has already destroyed it.


    Chat filter rant:

    As many of you may have already found out, the new chat filter is absolutely awful. You can say links in chat, say death threats, and still swear as easily as before, but somehow a simple emoji is not allowed.

    YES, I already know this IS a bug, however you would think on an a sever with
    , that the staff team would test such an important plugin before releasing it to everyone?

    I would also like to say, that adding "KYS" to the chat filter would save time for so many people. I can tell someone is going to say "Free reports", but on a server with a minuscule staff to player ratio, couldn't those staff be saving time on not answering such simple reports when a filter could do it for them. They could be doing something much more productive (I am NOT saying that looking at reports is not important).

    It just seems stupid, that a server that is this big, doesn't think before they do....

    Spamming Rant:

    Spamming on cube is not allowed, I have learnt this the hard way. Last week during one of my streams, I was muted for doing it myself. As I am sure many of you have seen, streamers will go through lobbies posting their stream messages. I was caught doing this, to be punished. I have been told, by Youn, to not advertise more than once every 10 minutes http://prntscr.com/f9tsce . Now knowing that this is not allowed, I have stopped, but there is two things about this incident that annoy the pants off of me.

    1) Multiple streamers do this, Including Cube! During the CCGN stream, the /alert command is executed on a regular basis.

    Infact, the command has been executed before the recommended 10 minutes http://prntscr.com/f9tuzq .
    It just makes me laugh to think that they expect us to follow the rules, yet they can't even follow them themselves. Also, this message is put across the WHOLE server, across every single bungee (to my knowledge), so I am sure everyone has seen the message, so why the need to /alert so often?

    2) I know a streamer that did this, and had a staff member that was regularly involved with their streams, but they did not get punished. I am not going to name names, because I am not that much of an idiot, but it's just a point to be made.

    Please do not post comments on this thread saying "Oh, report staff abuse here:" , or "Well because one person does it, it doesn't mean its right". I fully understand that what I did was wrong, I am just making the point that looking at the circumstances, I feel the rules should stop being so bland, and actually say what is and what is not allowed. "Lightly" can have a lot of different interpretations.

    Ignoring suggestions:

    I have been told PLENTY of times "If you have a suggestion, put it on the forums. We listen to you!

    Here is a classic example of a quality thread being ignored: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/wait-for-it.176648/

    As of right now, this idea has 69
    Lol xD
    positive votes. The idea was from last year, but it has still not been added. This kind of addition would not take long to add, but no, I doubt it will just be left to rot.

    Same concept applies for the chat filter, I have seen countless people asking for simple things (such as death threats) to be added to the filter, but no. This would literally take minutes, but it is ignored, like most good suggestions.

    I'm not saying that no good threads get accepted, what I am saying is that not enough get accepted. For such a massive server, you would think they would be doing everything possible to improve the players experience, but from my point of view, it doesn't seem that way.

    Edit: Having some kind of monthly review would mean we don't have to worry that we are being ignored. All it needs to say is what is going to be added, it doesn't need to say when .

    This one makes me laugh so much:

    In last weeks community stream, the staff could not stop bragging about this amazing new party system. I must admit, it is awesome, but it follows the same concept of most things on Cube. It's broke. There are a lot of bugs, that make this plugin longer to use than to just do things the old fashion way. The staff were funilly not using it this stream, I wonder why? Also, please do not say "Report bugs here", it will legit make me facepalm my desk.

    This just makes me think, why not test things before claiming how good they are. Without getting forum banned, I would like to suggest a new area of cube. A prototype lobby. Before I get bombarded with "This is copying", I would like to say that just because something is good, doesn't mean it is out of the question.


    This system that another rival server uses ensures that games get thoroughly tested before getting a full release, unlike the new chat filter. I am sure that you guys test everything behind the scenes, but testing it in some kind of "Pre release" lobby would mean that more bugs get found before a full release, this is simply because there will be more people to test it.

    This could even be a perk for ranked players? However I am guessing this is against the EULA, so don't go tearing me apart over this suggestion.

    Edit: The bugs seem to have been fixed, however my point still stands that if there had been more testing on a smaller, pre release Lobby, there would not have been the issue in the first place.


    Conclusion:

    I have plenty more annoying things about CCG stored in the back of my mind, but at least by making this thread they won't corrode my mind as much anymore. Hopefully the staff team will learn to listen, and maybe test things a little more before getting raged at by angry mobs.

    Issues like ^^ are what drive away dedicated forums members to only leave useless staff lookalikes, that only want to get a staff rank. This is my reasoning behind the player count decreasing. Yes, I know this is not the gaming season (school exams ETC), but during this time a year or so ago, there used to be way more players.

    Sorry if I have made any silly mistakes in this thread (e.g grammatical or spelling errors), I am just too tired to deal with spell checking, I have to do enough of the stuff at school.
     
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    What do you mean by "put a block above your head" and how would it stop fly hax which have already basically been eliminated on the server already?
     
  3. ThatGrimCreeper

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    It wouldn't stop fly hackers, it would just help deter them from going around before the game even starts. At least then players get to protect their eggs before some fly hacker comes around.

    You know those cages you are put in before the game starts? In Eggwars there isn't anything above them. You can fly out, just put a block there to stop them flying out :)
     
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    Lol xD






    Jk agreed
     
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    Guess what will happen to this thread....

    Please prove me wrong, please do. and no, not a simple "oh i like it maybe we will do something with this" response where you then do nothing about it.
     
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    You must be joking right?
    Quality? Lmao!
    List of some quality threads:
    Cough:
    https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bringbackmoneywalls.180853/ 69 votes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Still agree tho.
    I could write a whole book about things that Cubecraft is doing wrong in my opinion. But I don't have time and I'm lazy to come with good evidence and to make it look nice.
     
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    Agree with everything! and yeah, the chat filter sucks and hard u.u
    +1
     
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    Yeah. It's sad to see all of these issues not being fixed, and all of these suggestions not being added. I dont know how many developers there actually are but i feel like they should add more of them, because right now everything is going way to slow.
    The custom shield is not even here yet, and they said the party system was coming, of what i have heard, a few years ago, and they only started working on it a few months ago.

    I am not going to stop playing cubecraft personally at any point soon, but it also bothers me everything you mentioned and as you also said, there are more things. I just hope they go at a faster pace now, i hope that soon a MASSIVE but i mean complete IMMENSE bug fix update comes soon!
     
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    Oh my, I'm flattered x

    I think the root of the problem, is that CCG grew far too big in popularity, far too quickly. As Efcluke once said, the staff team just consists of a group of overworked kids, so when their one-hit wonder Eggwars blew up overnight, players began to hold CCG to the standards of all the servers that it was now competing with. They need to put a greater emphasis on developers and community managers if they really wish to maintain relevance, because now that RatPixel and others have taken Cube's cash cows, players are moving on to those servers instead. CCG has lost its uniqueness, and has become inconvenient to play. There are also no incentives to continue playing the same gamemodes over and over again.

    The lack of communication is also a big problem. Please stop leaving us in the dark about literally everything. Even as a staff member, I had no idea what was going on 90% of the time and it really strained my patience. Whatever happened to the monthly developer recap threads? They stopped after only two entries.
     
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    Also, on this note, try not to hate on the developers. They have little / no say in what it is they work on, and most, if not all of them, are overworked and are also quite young.
     
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    Another one of these threads... get in the bin.
     
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    The fact that there are so many of them clearly indicates that there is an ongoing problem that needs resolving. Criticism isn't a bad thing, it tells the management team what's working and what needs improving.
     
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    Agreed.
    Don't worry too much about the chat filter, I believe it was a mistake that some things changed on the main network.
    Agreed, we mods can't really change the rules though, if we could it would've been improved already.
    We haven't really had many minerware updates so I'm sure in the next minerware update some of you guys' suggestions will be added. Same for other games, we remember the suggestions, but we only implement them when we have enough to make a full update and actually feel like it needs an update. I do agree that it would be nice to see small suggestions getting added because they can make the server look so much better. The mods forward loads of suggestions, but sadly we can't implement them for you.
    I believe the bugs with the party system happened due to some changes in the backend (don't quote me on this), these bugs started today and they've been fixed. The party system seems to have worked fine other then today.

    We've thrown around ideas about a 'prototype' lobby for a long time, even way before other servers did such things. I agree that it would be really nice to have, I just don't think we have the dev power to do such a thing at the moment, especially with all the updates we have planned.
    I agree with most of your points, but I also disagree with how you instantly started bashing the party system due to some failure with something else causing the party system to bug, and the same with the chat filter.
     
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    Has been suggested before, and shut down due to some teleporting issues that would occur when the box is closed off.
    Don't quote me on this, as this is only what I've heard.
    And to be honest, last time I saw one of these was at least 4 months ago.

    Good luck testing something that's meant for large scale, with a small scale team. Eventually there will always be a problem with the filter. It's natural.

    Usually they set alerts when they move onto another topic/game during the stream.
    I don't see why you assume that it's 10 minutes though. It's only 1 staff member who said it's every 10 minutes, therefore it not being set in stone.

    Different staff, different opinions.

    All I can say, is to wait for the next minerware update. It's not very Cube-like to add features without doing a major update.

    For all you know, they could have a very valid reason that they can't discuss publicly due to TOS.
    Some might just not like it & think it's a waste of time. (Some = people in the management team)

    It's easy to make accusations without naming any possible proof...
    They already put tons of work into the party system, ensuring that people get to the same team on the same game without it being full. There's lots of little features that had to be made to prevent game breaking bugs for them.
    Besides, it's a brand new plug-in. There are always bugs in new systems.
    And to your "proof" (staff not using it): What if they just don't need it? What if they make staff enter and take 50% of the space in a match? It's better to do it without, so more get a chance to play with the owners.

    Nobody ever really said it was a completely horrible system.
    It does the job, and it does it quite well. Bugs won't outweigh how good the current system is.
    And to the PTL: Everyone pretty much wants one, as Framb00s suggested this to be added earlier. It was locked after Joe claiming it would be brought up to the management team.
     
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    Btw it isn't against the Eula to make it exclusive to ranks but pls don't make it exclusive
     
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    My intention wasn't to bash the party system. It is really good tbh, but today I experienced an incredible amount of issues with it, however you say it has been fixed. If so, fair enough. As for the minerware suggestion, it would be nice for the community to know if an idea is going to happen rather than being left in the dark.

    There should be some kind of monthly update thread with all upcoming things (without dates ). That way we don't feel ignored, instead we will have things to look forward to.
     
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    According to staff this is both problematic and useless

    Problamatic: its a weird teleport system putting a block above you breaks the whole tp system altogether
    Useless: putting a block there will not stop a fly hacker he will fly around after everyone is released
    part of the issue is some words are impossible to blot out because they are easy to bypass, kys if i remember from another thread is already in the process of being added
    thats a little extreme i would say once every lobby instead because your not spamming it your posting it in a new chat each time
    and by charlocks breath is it obnoxious
    part of the issue here is theres to few developers and to many projects
    i think it was tacos that like this idea but it was said that its not easy to code a prototype..... ok than
     
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    How do you plan this will turn out
    it makes sense but that wouldn't just stop the hacker from destroying everyone's eggs they just wait until the game has started
    also who's to say that the staff team aren't going to put a block above players heads? maybe it was on their to-do list but they never got around to it
    um actually you can't say any death threat and some you can say also have other meanings like Kys means kiss in another language
    The Really hard way
    well it isn't like they do it every 2 minutes
    As for other streamers/YouTubers doing it they are off the hook due to the fact that people don't want to report their favourite youtubers
    yes chances are there would likely be a mute if a player reported them or if a staff member decided to mute them
    I also want to point something out about the rules
    Even the owners gotta stay open to them which we know they do
    Because of something I'd rather not remind people about in case they didn't want to be reminded

    Though I knew you were gonna bring that 1 up think about that game right now
    What can cause you to die
    Eagerness you have to react at a certain time if you go to early you go back to the middle
     
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    Didn't finish the message so here we are
    Today GingerGeek pretty much fixed a big bug with the party system so they are doing it
    The biggest sin you have ever committed wow you evil
    I am once again not decided on anything here for this point
     
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    101% agreed.
    I personnaly have not gotten on cube lately. (I got on it today, was in Grim's lobby)

    And i agree.
    I have seen SO MUCH high quality legit suggestion threads. None have been added.
    Just look at the list @Dotsially gave. Full of amazing threads that should get added.

    Cube just needs to get everything, i mean EVERYTHING in order.
     
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