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Major Eggwars Suggestion

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Donald Trump, Sep 27, 2016.

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Should OP Be Removed?

  1. Yes!!!

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  2. I don't care

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  3. No

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  1. Donald Trump

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    This is a major suggestion to hopefully return Eggwars to her glory days. Veteran Eggwars players have probably already caught on.

    You may ask, what was the "Golden Age" of Eggwars?

    The Golden Age was basically the time period between its release and the 1.9 update. DISCLAIMER: This thread is not about 1.9 or the influx of hackers. 1.9 brought new opportunities and I know the developers are working hard on the anti-cheat. By now, you should know what I'm talking about.

    Why do I not like OP?

    There are a ton of reasons I dislike OP. The main basis around all these ideas, however, is the lack of skill needed to win in OP mode.

    • Camping is the Way To Go. Camping is so OP in this mode due to the fact killing someone with diamonds is close to impossible for rushers.
    • Spamclick Fights. Every fight, with the exception of tiny maps, is based off who breaks their opponent's armour first. This is never how you fought in the golden age.
    • Bowspammers. From when I joined on August 30, 2015 all the way until the update that came after 1.9 I encountered no more than 15 bowspammers. You can find that many bowspammers in ONE OP game.
    • Campers. Everyone camps and the game is no fun. Sure you can get an enderpearl, but even if you have two level three generators at mid, by the time you get enough, buy the ender pearl, and are in position to teleport over your opponents have got at least one piece of diamond armour. Not to mention, even if you do teleport over you still have the chance of being bowspammed off.
    • Noobs. Not to mean this in a bad way for people that like OP, but generally the eggwars gamemode they prefer is purely based off when they joined the server. On the forums, I've generally found that people who joined in 2015 / 2014 prefer normal / hardcore and those who joined in 2016 prefer OP. Also, I did a quick questionnaire in the lobby and found that the most common reason for not liking OP is "I'm bad at normal" This reason links back to all the reasons stated above.
    • Targeters. If I don't vote OP, I get targeted.
    What should happen?

    tl;dr: Remove OP Mode.

    Extended: Replace OP Mode with another voting option that everyone will enjoy.

    A. The first thing I thought of was a very recent suggestion. All credit goes to @TheMilkmanGamer for this.

    The original thread is here: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/new-eggwars-gamemode-type-insane-mode.157795/ . Comment thoughts on his thread (unless he prefers to have it on this thread)

    B. Factory Mode

    Factory mode is just like normal mode, except that you have a goal of processing items. You have a mini-factory set up that processes various items. There is an armor stand that asks for these goods. In addition to what the egg normally does, it also shuts down all home island factories, forcing you to besiege an island or use the one at mid. The first to meet these goals OR eliminate all other players wins.

    Let me know what you think!
     
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    Well once again, the server does need money to keep on going :)
     
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    I do prefer @milkmangamer 's insane mode to op but so many people like op I doubt it will be removed. You just have to play aggressively, get a couple sets of leather and crit every1 out before they can camp on op
     
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    My question to you guys, do YOU like OP?
     
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    Yea, pretty fun.
     
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    Here is the thing. OP has become extremely popilar in eggwars and I get spammed with OP! DO OP! Honestly removing op is like removing half of cubecraft's players.especially those who are like 100% op only. Even though I HATE op, it is what other think and I think that you should think of the majority of cubecraft players. Build since you are a ranked user, I would recommend that you just vote for hardcore/normal and ignore the hate you get. (Thats what I do).
     
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    That really doesn't work. Spamclicking with a pickaxe still works better and OP is very skilless. And trust me, most people enjoy OP because they're bad at normal. Most people who say "y no OP" then later /tell me "I'm so bad at this why do you do it". But, once people actually start playing normal mode they flip over to that because they realize it's better. Also, Insane Mode actually requires skill

    tl;dr People enjoy OP because they're new (for the most part) and they aren't very skilled in normal. I can dominate in normal, being very skilled but in OP I'm worthless because people with no skill can put up a decent fight just by getting better gear. That is not "Golden Age" eggwars.
     
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    Well OP is still a mode that people whether they are good at pvp or not. It's too popular for cubecraft to remove. I would recommend that instead of removing it, they should make the amour less op so fights don't last for 100000 decades.
     
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    I think that OP should be kept. Lots of people like playing it even though they just bowspam. CCG might even lose donators if they remove it. My suggestion. Leave if it is an OP game or just go super aggressive and when the last team camps just have a person with a bow at your base guarding the bridge and be a pleb with no armor bait the stacked guy and punch him off the edge. Have the guy at your base save for you so when they are weak you can go in and get their egg. This is just my strategy.
     
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    This sounds cool, but do you think you could go a little more into it?
     
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    I don't like it, I like op mode how it is, please don't remove op mode staff, it is the est for eggwars
     
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    Not really but I'll play it if I'm with friends
     
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    Reasons to like Op: You have no skill, you like long games(even though normal games can last pretty long. I agree remove it or change it in a way.
     
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    no Unless if my friends ask me to.
     
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    So, I just did a 30 minute survey hopping through eggwars lobbies.
    These were the most common results for reasons to like OP:
    50% - Ender Pearls
    40% - Items are Cheaper / Easier to Play
    10% - Other (Prefer long fights, no response)

    On a side note, when I said "If Ender Pearls were in normal, would you prefer that?". Every single person said yes.

    Also, only 2 out of 25 people actually said they like the OP items.

    So, here's the idea. Ender pearls go into normal for 100 diamonds. Then, the cheaper items get transferred to Insane mode, and possibly the easier play goes to insane.
     
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    I disagree. Enderpearls are way way way way (a lot of ways here) toooooooo op. I mean yeah it's against campers but in normal and hardcore, there is no way to be 100% sure that you can camp there the whole time. Since most of the items don't do that much damage. It's easier to just build a safe bridge. Build just saying: breaking armour can also be a pvp skill too. Why do you want to remove op rather than improving it?!?!
     
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    Safe bridging dosent help they bow you head on and either
    1. be powered to death
    2. Punched so much it makes it impossible to build at all
     
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    OP is good and bad in many ways, but many people seem to like it. However, players are so obsessed with NEEDING it or leaving when it is voted for that it gets out of hand. When I voted for OP, I got a few comments of people swearing at me because they don't like it. On the flip-side, people spam me in the lobby until the game starts and spam me in /tell to vote for OP. They are both annoying.
     
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    Oh wow, thanks for the shoutout! :D

    First off, a demographic:
    I joined the server in late July / early August, so about 2 months of playing time. I was not around during before 1.9, so idk what it was like.

    Personally, I like a mix. I would prefer somewhere around 25% OP and 75% normal. OP games admittedly last a very long time, and they can be a drag, but an occasional long battle is fun for me. OP battles are always won by knocking people off the edge or breaking their armor. On aztec you can kill someone with lava without breaking their armor if they have leather but that's not very easy. Its also quite simple: Early stage OP i bring 5-6 sets of armor and 2 stone swords. Late game OP I buy a punch bow, a couple iron sets, a stack or 2 of slow arrows, and then bowspam people off. I like it sometimes, and it isn't completely skill-less, but it definitely could use some balancing / changes

    My idea was never meant to completely replace OP mode but I guess it could. Maybe a few changes would be needed to make it feel more "OP"?

    IMO posts about my idea should be on my thread and posts about OP mode / other suggestions can be on this thread. If i make a major change to my idea than I could also post the update here if that helps.



    Also, I am not sure I understand factory mode. Are factories like eggs, shops, generators, or a combination?
     
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    I like OP. You're a donor. Just don't vote for it.
    Just because you don't like something doesn't mean the vast majority of others don't like it either.
    The stats you did with the survey I doubt. Most people wouldn't respond (from my experience). That and the fact that literally in every lobby they would spam OP. Why change it if it's not broken? And you can't win if you rush? Then try a different strategy! Not everything is going to work out to fit one person's tastes.
    Also, from what I understand, nothing has changed in OP other than the shift to 1.9. So really it's not OP, it's 1.9. If I understand what you're saying.