All Networks Allow drag and dc in pg's

[Ahmdprogamer]

Changing the settings or adding a vote doesn't bypass the server rule. Banned clicking methods are forbidden under any circumstances.

I told u
If you don't want dc/drag
Just turn off it

 

[yurisatori0312]

I told u
If you don't want dc/drag
Just turn off it

Server rules are server rules. Banned means banned—no matter the location, condition, or method.

 

[Ahmdprogamer]

Server rules are server rules. Banned means banned—no matter the location, condition, or method.

 

[Legendary_op_30]

Hello,
Sometimes my friends and I play against each other in Private Games (PG), and we enjoy using clicking techniques like double clicking and drag clicking.
Could you consider adding a setting for Private Games that allows host owners to enable or disable double clicking?
When this option is enabled, the Anti-Cheat/Protection System would temporarily bypass click-rate detection within the PG session, allowing us to practice and play using our preferred clicking methods without false bans or flags.

Even tho they are banned overall , allowing them only in one gamemode would be unfair and unjustice

 

[thediamondroblox]

I see many people added on a voting suggestion for clicking methods, I like the idea. Even I wish I could drag click, it was fun drag clicking when it was allowed

 

[tacoman222xx]

So this will never be easily implemented because how do you prove that everyone participating in a PG has agreed to allow certain clicking methods? If we get just a single report from a PG match that means someone considers that drag clicking and double clicking should not be allowed in that game. Imagine the many appeals that would come in claiming that the members of the PG had “agreed” to allow these clicking methods, how would we verify that?

And if you propose to let the creator of the private game decide what is allowed and what is not, why should the host of a PG decide which CubeCraft rules should be enforced and which should not? It is a slippery slope. Also how would it be proven that everyone was notified accordingly of which clicking methods were allowed?

As mentioned above in some of the replies, if a rule exists on our server it is meant to be enforced everywhere, otherwise people get confused and miscommunication leads to unexpected punishments. At any rate, I see no added benefit in “allowing” these clicking methods because they are inherently unfair, as people with access to specific hardware can enforce an unfair advantage over others that I would not like to see allowed anywhere, not even private games.

Note: You mention “practicing” your preferred clicking methods. I don’t see why CubeCraft should encourage players to practice clicking methods that we disallow.

Hey Eli, I do understand your arguments, but I don't fully agree. The point of it being only in pgs is to eliminate the argument of it being unfair for example mobile players. A pg is a restricted environment and can only be joined by people that have the code, so people that can't drag can just not join. And people WILL host drag pgs regardless, only thing is now everyone doing this is constantly scared someone will snitch. Many people love doing it and because they find no way to do it legally, they do it in public games, and get banned. If the pgs are their 'outlet' they might be able to hold themselves in better in public games.
Regarding enforcement, there could be a sidebar saying "Drag and double click allowed here" with people getting a notice when they join that says that. Everyone against these ideas just doesn't have to join these games (thats the wonderful thing about pgs)

 

[AliWarrior]

Hey, I don't agree with this. PGs being a restricted environment doesn't change the fact that they're still part of CubeCraft and should follow the same rules as the rest of the server.

The main issue for me is consistency. If drag clicking and double clicking are considered unfair advantages and are therefore disallowed, I don't think that should change depending on whether the game is public or private. Otherwise, we're essentially creating a separate ruleset for PGs, which could easily lead to confusion for both players and staff.

could be a sidebar saying "Drag and double click allowed here" with people getting a notice when they join that says that.

A sidebar or join message saying that certain clicking methods are allowed also doesn't completely solve the enforcement issue. We'd still potentially have reports and appeals where someone claims they weren't aware of the exception, didn't see the message, or that the host didn't properly notify everyone. We'd then have to verify whether the exception actually applied, which makes moderation unnecessarily complicated.

The fact that people will host these PGs regardless doesn't really justify making an exception either. If players are knowingly using a prohibited clicking method, the solution shouldn't be to create a separate area where the rule no longer applies. Otherwise, the same argument could eventually be made for other rules as well.

PGs are meant to play in private environment with selected players not to decide which CubeCraft rules apply to their game.

 

[xsmistryx]

I say in pg

It will just break the server rules, rules which are really appreciated by most of the community.

 

[Ahmdprogamer]

It will just break the server rules which are really appreciated by most of the community.

 

[Ahmdprogamer]

أولاً وقبل كل شيء، أود أن أشكر تاكومان على تبسيط الموقف بالنسبة لي.
لقد لخص فكرتي بشكل أفضل مما فعلت!
شكرًا لك!
لم أعد بحاجة للرد على بعض الأشخاص الآن.
أما أنت يا سيد علي المحارب...
ما قلته يكاد يكون مطابقاً لما قاله إيلي.
لذا، يرجى قراءة ردي الكامل على إيلي.
شكرًا لك!

مهلاً، أنا لا أوافق على هذا. كون غرف اللاعبين بيئة مقيدة لا يغير من حقيقة أنها لا تزال جزءًا من كيوب كرافت ويجب أن تتبع نفس القواعد التي تتبعها بقية الخادم.

المشكلة الرئيسية بالنسبة لي هي الاتساق. إذا كان النقر بالسحب والنقر المزدوج يُعتبران ميزتين غير عادلتين وبالتالي ممنوعين، فلا أعتقد أنه ينبغي تغيير ذلك بناءً على ما إذا كانت اللعبة عامة أم خاصة. وإلا، فإننا بذلك نُنشئ مجموعة قواعد منفصلة للألعاب الخاصة، مما قد يُسبب ارتباكًا للاعبين والطاقم على حد سواء.


إنّ إضافة شريط جانبي أو رسالة انضمام تُشير إلى السماح ببعض طرق النقر لا يحلّ مشكلة تطبيق القواعد بشكل كامل. فسنظلّ نتلقّى تقارير واستئنافات من أشخاص يدّعون عدم علمهم بالاستثناء، أو عدم رؤيتهم للرسالة، أو أنّ المضيف لم يُبلغ الجميع بشكلٍ صحيح. وسيتعين علينا حينها التحقّق من انطباق الاستثناء فعلاً، ممّا يُعقّد عملية الإشراف بلا داعٍ.

لا يُبرر استضافة هذه المجموعات الخاصة على أي حال استثناءها. فإذا كان اللاعبون يستخدمون عن علم طريقة نقر محظورة، فلا ينبغي أن يكون الحل هو إنشاء منطقة منفصلة لا ينطبق عليها هذا القانون. وإلا، فقد يُطرح نفس المنطق لاحقًا على قواعد أخرى أيضًا.

يُفترض أن يلعب اللاعبون في بيئة خاصة مع لاعبين محددين، وليس أن يقرروا أي قواعد لعبة CubeCraft تنطبق على لعبتهم.

مرحباً إيلي، أفهم حججك، لكنني لا أتفق معها تماماً. الهدف من اقتصارها على مجموعات اللعب الخاصة هو تجنب الادعاء بأنها غير عادلة، خاصةً بالنسبة للاعبين على الهواتف المحمولة. مجموعة اللعب الخاصة بيئة مقيدة، ولا يمكن الانضمام إليها إلا لمن يملكون رمز السحب، لذا يمكن لمن لا يستطيع السحب ببساطة عدم الانضمام. وسيُقيم اللاعبون مجموعات لعب خاصة للسحب على أي حال، لكن المشكلة الآن هي أن كل من يفعل ذلك يخشى باستمرار أن يُبلغ عنه أحدهم. كثيرون يستمتعون بهذا، ولأنهم لا يجدون طريقة قانونية للقيام به، يلجؤون إليه في الألعاب العامة، فيُحظرون. إذا كانت مجموعات اللعب الخاصة هي متنفسهم، فقد يتمكنون من ضبط أنفسهم بشكل أفضل في الألعاب العامة.
فيما يتعلق بتطبيق القواعد، يمكن إضافة شريط جانبي يوضح "السحب والنقر المزدوج مسموحان هنا"، مع إشعار بذلك عند الانضمام. كل من يعارض هذه الأفكار ليس ملزمًا بالانضمام إلى هذه الألعاب (وهذا ما يميز ألعاب PGS).

 

[tacoman222xx]

uh idk arabic sry

 

[Ahmdprogamer]

أولاً وقبل كل شيء، أود أن أشكر تاكومان على تبسيط الموقف بالنسبة لي.
لقد لخص فكرتي بشكل أفضل مما فعلت!
شكرًا لك!
لم أعد بحاجة للرد على بعض الأشخاص الآن.
أما أنت يا سيد علي المحارب...
ما قلته يكاد يكون مطابقاً لما قاله إيلي.
لذا، يرجى قراءة ردي الكامل على إيلي.
شكرًا لك!

First of all, I would like to thank Tacoman for simplifying the situation for me.
He summarized my idea even better than I did!
Thank you!
I no longer need to reply to certain people now.
As for you, Mr. Ali warrior...
What you said is almost identical to what Eli said.
Therefore, please read my full response to Eli.
Thank you!

Am sorry
I was using google translation
Please ignore my first reply

 

[Ahmdprogamer]

Google was change my text sry

 

[xsmistryx]

maybe i wrote something that means different but edited it.

 

[M8KI05]

Nice try.

 

[Ahmdprogamer]

maybe i wrote something that means different but edited it.

Yes but u still on wrong