Denied A new rank system...

[Dualninja]

Introduction
So, the Bedrock rank system isnt the best. I've heard many people complain about it and I know this is controversial but, I think the Java rank system should be ported to Bedrock. With some changes to fit to Bedrock of course.

For anyone that doesn't know, Java has universal ranks instead of game specific ranks. The ranks being Iron, Lapis, Gold, Diamond, Emerald and Obsidian, which give benefits for all gamemodes and not just one gamemode. Bedrock does have universal ranks too, being the VIP levels, although they don't provide many benefits.

One of the main reasons for making this change is that every rank on Bedrock costs £8 or €10 and it slowly more and more ranks get added. It started out at €20 for every rank, now it's €70 and it'll eventually be €100 then €150. Also if you want to not spend that much money, yet still get some general perks for all gamemodes. It costs way too much and gives you some perks that you wouldn't use.
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How the ranks would work
The ranks would work mostly how they do on Java and don't worry, every perk that are in the current ranks would be added to these ranks. Also if you are VIP level 1 you will receive Iron rank for free, VIP level 2 will get Lapis rank, VIP level 3 will get Gold rank, VIP level 4 will get Diamond rank and VIP 5 will get Emerald rank. This would happen so people who have paid for ranks, won't have to pay again.

One thing to note would be that these ranks would be cheaper than they are on Java, as the playerbase of Bedrock is younger and has less money. The price of these ranks would be £5 for Iron, £10 for Lapis, £20 for Gold £30 for Diamond, £50 for Emerald and £75 for Obsidian.

A new prefix system
Prefixes in chat are very messy, there's over 50 prefixes each one appearing when you type in chat. So what I'm suggesting is that prefixes appear below your nametag in the lobby, instead of in chat. There would still be prefixes in chat though, as if you had Iron rank you would get an Iron prefix in chat and each rank would get its own exclusive chat prefix. Also YouTube rank would get a prefix in chat, just like the other ranks, same goes for staff ranks.
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The contents of each rank
The ranks would give mostly the same perks they give on Java, but with some slight alterations to fit in to Bedrock. It even includes some Java features that aren't in Bedrock

Spoiler: Iron rank perks

Iron rank would give:

an exclusive Iron: chat prefix
Iron profile border
5 exclusive nametag prefixes
15 profile colours
100 freind slots(The regular amount would be raised to 50)
Up to 5 people in a party
50 daily XP for logging in
Rank exclusive loot(mostly the loot from the old ranks)
5 exclusive kill messages

Eggwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skywars perks
Map selection
Access to Skywars Chaos
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skyblock perks
Furniture
3rd profile slot
4th profile slot
5th profile slot

Lucky Islands perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Battle Arena perks
Kit selection in Duels
Choose your spawn location in FFA
Custom kit creation in Duels
Create private games
Blue kill message in FFA
Choose your time of day in FFA

Blockwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Minerware perks
Map selection
Create private games
Vote for difficulty

Survival Games perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Spoiler: Lapis rank perks

Lapis rank would give:

an exclusive Lapis: chat prefix
Lapis profile border
10 exclusive nametag prefixes
15 profile colours
150 freind slots(The regular amount would be raised to 50)
Up to 7 people in a party
100 daily XP for logging in
More Rank exclusive loot(mostly the loot from the old ranks)
10 exclusive kill messages
5 exclusive egg break messages
Access to all previous rank perks

Eggwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skywars perks
Map selection
Access to Skywars Chaos
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skyblock perks
Furniture
3rd profile slot
4th profile slot
5th profile slot

Lucky Islands perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Battle Arena perks
Kit selection in Duels
Choose your spawn location in FFA
Custom kit creation in Duels
Create private games
Blue kill message in FFA
Choose your time of day in FFA

Blockwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Minerware perks
Map selection
Create private games
Vote for difficulty

Survival Games perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Spoiler: Gold rank perks

Gold rank would give:

an exclusive Gold: chat prefix
Gold profile border
15 exclusive nametag prefixes
20 profile colours
200 freind slots(The regular amount would be raised to 50)
Up to 10 people in a party
150 daily XP for logging in
Even More Rank exclusive loot(mostly the loot from the old ranks)
15 exclusive kill messages
10 exclusive egg break messages
Access to all previous rank perks

Eggwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skywars perks
Map selection
Access to Skywars Chaos
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skyblock perks
Furniture
3rd profile slot
4th profile slot
5th profile slot

Lucky Islands perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Battle Arena perks
Kit selection in Duels
Choose your spawn location in FFA
Custom kit creation in Duels
Create private games
Blue kill message in FFA
Choose your time of day in FFA

Blockwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Minerware perks
Map selection
Create private games
Vote for difficulty

Survival Games perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Spoiler: Diamond rank perks

Diamond rank would give:

an exclusive Diamond: chat prefix
Diamond profile border
20 exclusive nametag prefixes
20 profile colours
250 freind slots(The regular amount would be raised to 50)
Up to 15 people in a party
200 daily XP for logging in
Even Even More Rank exclusive loot(mostly the loot from the old ranks)
20 exclusive kill messages
15 exclusive egg break messages
Access to all previous rank perks

Eggwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skywars perks
Map selection
Access to Skywars Chaos
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skyblock perks
Furniture
3rd profile slot
4th profile slot
5th profile slot

Lucky Islands perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Battle Arena perks
Kit selection in Duels
Choose your spawn location in FFA
Custom kit creation in Duels
Create private games
Blue kill message in FFA
Choose your time of day in FFA

Blockwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Minerware perks
Map selection
Create private games
Vote for difficulty

Survival Games perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Spoiler: Emerald rank perks

Emerald rank would give:

an exclusive Emerald: chat prefix
Emerald profile border
30 exclusive nametag prefixes
25 profile colours
300 freind slots(The regular amount would be raised to 50)
Up to 20 people in a party
250 daily XP for logging in
Even Even Even More Rank exclusive loot(mostly the loot from the old ranks)
25 exclusive kill messages
20 exclusive egg break messages
Ability to fly in lobbies with /fly
Access to all previous rank perks

Eggwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skywars perks
Map selection
Access to Skywars Chaos
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skyblock perks
Furniture
3rd profile slot
4th profile slot
5th profile slot

Lucky Islands perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Battle Arena perks
Kit selection in Duels
Choose your spawn location in FFA
Custom kit creation in Duels
Create private games
Blue kill message in FFA
Choose your time of day in FFA

Blockwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Minerware perks
Map selection
Create private games
Vote for difficulty

Survival Games perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Spoiler: Obsidian rank perks

Obsidian rank would give:

an exclusive Obsidian: chat prefix
Obsidian profile border
50 exclusive nametag prefixes
30 profile colours
500 freind slots(The regular amount would be raised to 50)
Up to 30 people in a party
300 daily XP for logging in
Even Even Even Even More Rank exclusive loot(mostly the loot from the old ranks)
30 exclusive kill messages
30 exclusive egg break messages
Ability to fly in lobbies with /fly
Ability to nick with /nick
Access to all previous rank perks

Eggwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skywars perks
Map selection
Access to Skywars Chaos
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Skyblock perks
Furniture
3rd profile slot
4th profile slot
5th profile slot

Lucky Islands perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Battle Arena perks
Kit selection in Duels
Choose your spawn location in FFA
Custom kit creation in Duels
Create private games
Blue kill message in FFA
Choose your time of day in FFA

Blockwars perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

Minerware perks
Map selection
Create private games
Vote for difficulty

Survival Games perks
Map selection
Vote for gamemodes
Create private games

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YouTube and Twitch ranks
The problem currently with Cubecraft partner ranks, is that theres only one of them. If you're a Twitch streamer, YouTube content creator or TikTok shorts creator you get a YouTube rank.

So I suggest that two new ranks should be created, that are identical to YouTube rank called Twitch and TikTok rank, exept with their own Prefixes.
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Overview
So what do people think of this enormous thread, I know it's going to be quite controversial, but take a moment to think about it and the future positions with this new rank system. As always if you agree with this suggestion use the agreereaction if you disagree use the disagreereaction. If this thread gets 25 agrees it will get forwarded.
(This thread took me 1.5 hours to write)​

 

[beanz]

I respect that you have given in some thought about new ranks but I just don't see this working. I think bedrocks ranks are absolutely fine and doesn't need a revamp, I really don't want CubeCraft to add more features that you need to buy to experience. I do although agree with the creator ranks so good job on that :D

 

[Dualninja]

I respect that you have given in some thought about new ranks but I just don't see this working. I think bedrocks ranks are absolutely fine and doesn't need a revamp, I really don't want CubeCraft to add more features that you need to buy to experience. I do although agree with the creator ranks so good job on that :D

But long term the current rank system would get worse, while this rank system won't as it's designed that way. The current rank system worked when there was only 2 ranks, now with 7 it doesn't work as well.

 

[Technosword]

YouTube and Twitch ranks
The problem currently with Cubecraft partner ranks, is that theres only one of them. If you're a Twitch streamer, YouTube content creator or TikTok shorts creator you get a YouTube rank.

So I suggest that two new ranks should be created, that are identical to YouTube rank called Twitch and TikTok rank, exept with their own Prefixes.

I would rather see just a "Partner" rank if anything.
I don't mind these ideas, except for one major issue. What happens to the people who bought Skywars or Eggwars or any other game rank? If you don't have a VIP level or do but not enough to get the perks you paid for by buying the rank, then you're just being scammed. I like some of the ideas, but the way to get these new ranks and their perks should stay the same. I think no special chat prefixes and the same ranks as Java is a cool idea though. However, it may confuse as people might try to buy Iron rank for Java and think they get it on Bedrock. I voted yes as I like some ideas, but if this does get considered I think some major edits would need to be made.

 

[kristiankunc]

50 exclusive nametag prefixes

Please keep this on Bedrock and don't take it to Java, thanks!

 

[Dualninja]

I would rather see just a "Partner" rank if anything.
I don't mind these ideas, except for one major issue. What happens to the people who bought Skywars or Eggwars or any other game rank? If you don't have a VIP level or do but not enough to get the perks you paid for by buying the rank, then you're just being scammed. I like some of the ideas, but the way to get these new ranks and their perks should stay the same. I think no special chat prefixes and the same ranks as Java is a cool idea though. However, it may confuse as people might try to buy Iron rank for Java and think they get it on Bedrock. I voted yes as I like some ideas, but if this does get considered I think some major edits would need to be made.

I mentioned this in the post, to quote it

Also if you are VIP level 1 you will receive Iron rank for free, VIP level 2 will get Lapis rank, VIP level 3 will get Gold rank, VIP level 4 will get Diamond rank and VIP 5 will get Emerald rank. This would happen so people who have paid for ranks, won't have to pay again.

As for partner rank that would also be another way, either way it's better than the current system of partner ranks.

 

[Technosword]

I mentioned this in the post, to quote it


As for partner rank that would also be another way, either way it's better than the current system of partner ranks.

Yes, but that is for VIP levels, not certain game ranks. That was my concern.

 

[Calichin]

Most of your suggestions aren't even features on Bedrock.

Perhaps suggest certain things individually to get implemented rather than requesting a MASSIVE update that would take so much time to develop/implement.

Sorry but I disagree with this.

 

[Dualninja]

Yes, but that is for VIP levels, not certain game ranks. That was my concern.

That is one issue that I couldn't find a solution to, but most of the perks would cross over and people would get new perks. It's unavoidable but then again if this were to get implemented, there would need to be tweaks and changes.

 

[RelatedNoobs]

I would rather see just a "Partner" rank if anything.
I don't mind these ideas, except for one major issue. What happens to the people who bought Skywars or Eggwars or any other game rank? If you don't have a VIP level or do but not enough to get the perks you paid for by buying the rank, then you're just being scammed. I like some of the ideas, but the way to get these new ranks and their perks should stay the same. I think no special chat prefixes and the same ranks as Java is a cool idea though. However, it may confuse as people might try to buy Iron rank for Java and think they get it on Bedrock. I voted yes as I like some ideas, but if this does get considered I think some major edits would need to be made.

Yes but not called “Partner” that sounds like it would come from a “Wild West” bundle or something lol

 

[Dualninja]

Most of your suggestions aren't even features on Bedrock.

Perhaps suggest certain things individually to get implemented rather than requesting a MASSIVE update that would take so much time to develop/implement.

Sorry but I disagree with this.

Most of the features mentioned are already planned, such as map selecting and private games. So they could all come out in the same update. Although it is a large suggestion and would take large amounts of development time, yet it would be worth it in my opinion.

 

[XPfirePlayz]

Wow! Great job! There is a lot to take in here but for Bedrock there is a lot of issues which just make a lot of this not possible. I think I agree with @Tecnhnosword that we should have the Partner rank instead of the current YouTube rank to fit more platforms. I think moving the prefix into Hub Titles would be a good idea.

While I don't necessarily like the current pricing system for each rank, I think it works. One of the things that difficult to do is pricing on Bedrock, Cubecraft is unable to charge $75 for a rank just because Minecraft won't allow it. I don't know whats the max but at this point no Marketplace item or Server item has gone over $20 which will also make it a very hard purchase for most players. Not only that but an upgrade system can't be implemented. Currently on Java, you can pay to upgrade your rank by just paying the difference. (ie. Iron is $10 and Gold is $20, if you have iron you only pay $10) The reasoning is I don't think the current Minecraft in-game purchasing system is equipped to handle this. There is a lot of complications including what if a player purchases a rank upgrade instead of rank, purchase wrong rank upgrade, etc. Mineplex has a similar system but in order to upgrade you have to rebuy the rank.(If you have Knight for $5 you have to pay full price $10 for Lord) Plus the VIP level system is also an award for purchasing marketplace maps. Players shouldn't receive free ranks just because they buy the maps. VIP level is only supposed to reward players for supporting the server.

 

[Dualninja]

Wow! Great job! There is a lot to take in here but for Bedrock there is a lot of issues which just make a lot of this not possible. I think I agree with @Tecnhnosword that we should have the Partner rank instead of the current YouTube rank to fit more platforms. I think moving the prefix into Hub Titles would be a good idea.

While I don't necessarily like the current pricing system for each rank, I think it works. One of the things that difficult to do is pricing on Bedrock, Cubecraft is unable to charge $75 for a rank just because Minecraft won't allow it. I don't know whats the max but at this point no Marketplace item or Server item has gone over $20 which will also make it a very hard purchase for most players. Not only that but an upgrade system can't be implemented. Currently on Java, you can pay to upgrade your rank by just paying the difference. (ie. Iron is $10 and Gold is $20, if you have iron you only pay $10) The reasoning is I don't think the current Minecraft in-game purchasing system is equipped to handle this. There is a lot of complications including what if a player purchases a rank upgrade instead of rank, purchase wrong rank upgrade, etc. Mineplex has a similar system but in order to upgrade you have to rebuy the rank.(If you have Knight for $5 you have to pay full price $10 for Lord) Plus the VIP level system is also an award for purchasing marketplace maps. Players shouldn't receive free ranks just because they buy the maps. VIP level is only supposed to reward players for supporting the server.

You can have items on the marketplace over 20$

 

[XPfirePlayz]

You can have items on the marketplace over 20$

I think you can, I was just saying it would be hard to compete since most items are not over $20 and those that are don't sell very well. Players are much more likely to spend $10 once in a while to buy the new game rank than pay a big price upfront.

 

[kochido]

I think this could be an easy way for cubecraft to implement these into bedrock, since they've already released all the old bundles this can't hurt to happen

 

[Dualninja]

I think you can, I was just saying it would be hard to compete since most items are not over $20 and those that are don't sell very well. Players are much more likely to spend $10 once in a while to buy the new game rank than pay a big price upfront.

Then they buy Iron or lapis rank.

 

[XPfirePlayz]

Then they buy Iron or lapis rank.

Even if they purchase an Iron or lapis rank, they are less likely later on to make a purchase because of not being able to upgrade their rank(If they wanted a higher rank they have to pay full price). This could loose money for Cubecraft.

 

[Story]

Hey Dualninja, thanks for your suggestion.

We're quite happy with our monetization system on Bedrock and have no intention of changing it, we intend to build upon it further and improve it over time.

Your point about the price of all ranks getting expensive is just a way of looking at it, it depends on the play style of players, if you are a player who plays every gamemode then yes it's expensive for you, but if you're a player who plays 1 or 2 gamemodes, then its quite cost effective, which makes sense because we have quite a large variety of games, most people generally stick to about 1-2.

Whereas your Java-like system would be bad for those people who only play 1 or 2 games and have to fork up quite a lot of money to get all of the features of only one gamemode. Both are fully viable options but we believe the per-game rank system works best for us.

Because Bedrock is newer to our Java server, we've made a lot of these decisions based on experience from our Java server and the monetization strategies there. We felt like this was far more viable for our more casual playerbase.

With the fact that we have a lot of purchases made on all of our ranks on the server, assigning reformed ranks to people will not be easy. For example, if we followed your system, someone who has only bought the EggWars rank may only receive the Iron rank, which doesn't unlock the perks that they paid for for that rank. Say I bought two ranks - EggWars rank, and Battle Arena rank and I'm given Lapis, I now have my EggWars perks, but I do not have all the Battle Arena perks. The logistical nightmare of sorting this out for something that could heavily impact our monetisation stream is not worth us considering going forward.

I have marked this as denied.