This is a good change that will guarantee that the server keeps moving forward. 1.8 was far not popular enough to keep dragging other versions down. There's so much new potential now! :D
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⚠️ NOTICE: We're updating our network to 1.12.2!
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Well, Hive closed, Cube is closing 1.8. I think Hypixel will breathe a sigh of relief now.
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Yes after 3 years of suggesting it, gg thats great
wish you guys would have gone all the way and done it with 1.14 or even 1.16, but right Ig there’d be issues
wish you guys would have gone all the way and done it with 1.14 or even 1.16, but right Ig there’d be issues
I wish it Very Best I hope I will be there in the future to participate in it becuseHey CubeCrafters!
Today we have a massive announcement to let you all know about! It will be affecting an entire community on our network, which we would encourage you to read about.
Firstly, we'd like to mention how lucky we are to be in this position we are in today, and that couldn't be done without you. We're all super excited for the future of CubeCraft Games, and we can't wait to show you all what we want to do!
Our aim always has been to provide the best experience for our players on our network - from both a game and design perspective. Recent discussions within the team have lead to some really interesting concepts being brought forward, which we're super excited to show you! We want to prove that we can be the best in terms of content going forward.
Minecraft 1.8 was first released on 2nd of September 2014, nearing the 7th anniversary! Since then, eight new versions of Minecraft have been released, with another version release being planned for this summer! Since the beginning of CubeCraft, we've been supporting the 1.8-type PvP - we updated to 1.9 in March 2016 and have been supporting the version for the last five years. Every update that we've planned has had to be restricted to 1.9 features only - with this comes the massive question in the product team: What are we holding on for?
A glimpse into the future!
We've decided to update our entire network to 1.12.2, and are supporting all its content!
Bare in mind, this is Java 1.12.2 content, not Bedrock 1.12.
The prospects of 1.12.2 features can affect every end of our server! Here are some ideas that we've brainstormed, but are not confirmed.
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- Colourful lobbies and maps to complement our upcoming loot with Concrete, Glazed Terracotta, and Nether blocks!
An example of a future Team SkyWars map. Imagine what we could do with a whole lobby!
- Cosmetics can also be created - new trails utilising new particles, riding Llamas, Shulker boxes as chests in SkyWars, and much more!
- Game specific ideas:
- Tower Defence - Illager tower, which produces Vexes & Evokers Fangs; Polar bears, parrots, husks & stray waves of mobs!
- Lucky Blocks - Endless possibilities of new lucky blocks such as spawning parrots and polar bears that help you fight (or attack you!), and lots more!
- MinerWare - Utilising new mechanics such as fireworks working with Elytras, use a Totem of Undying, snipe a Vex, dodge the evoker fangs, and much more!
- SkyWars - Curse of Vanishing books to protect your most important gear when you die,
- EggWars - We’re wanting to experiment with new items in EggWars, specifically in the emerald shop, which updating will help with! For example: replacing terracotta with concrete (more representative of the team colour).
- Skyblock - Shulker shells sounds pretty neat...
"Why 1.12+?"
We've settled with 1.12+ due to the additional extensive work that would need to be done if we updated beyond 1.13+. This doesn't mean that we won't be considering it in the future, however, this is the first step in making that transition slightly easier!
When also considering the number of player connections on Java, with any versions from 1.9 to 1.12, the number of connections is negligible:
To explain these numbers, this is useful information that we collect on player join, which shows what protocol version you're joining on. Every update, every snapshot, there is a new protocol version which is an internal number for the Minecraft version you're running on. For example, protocol 754 is 1.16.4 and 1.16.5. More information about protocol version numbers can be found here.
Listing the versions, their protocol version number, and their connection on a peak day for the last twenty minutes:
When compared to the 1.16.4/5 version of 3,325 connections, it's very low, and we won't be cutting too many people off.
- 1.9 - protocol: 107 - 20 connections.
- 1.9.1 - protocol: 108 - 1 connection.
- 1.9.2 - protocol: 109 - 1 connection.
- 1.9.3/4 - protocol: 110 - 16 connections.
- 1.10 - protocol: 210 - 5 connections.
- 1.11 - protocol 315 - 4 connections.
- 1.11.1/2 - protocol: 316 - 5 connections.
- 1.12 - protocol: 335 - 10 connections.
- 1.12.1 - protocol: 338 - 2 connections.
- Total connections for all protocol versions - 64 connections.
Want to update to 1.12.2 or higher, check out this Help article here: https://help.cubecraft.net/en/article/937qhx
What about 1.8?
Over the last couple of months, we've been monitoring our growth and player count on all of our networks, particularly focusing on the 1.8 network.
As of recent, the 1.8 network is consistently reaching peaks of 650-700 players, and reaching lows of 70-150, as shown by the graph below. (The single outlier being the peak at 1150 players on the 15th of January, likely when larger servers had an outage of some sorts.)
The decline in players is something that could be seen as our fault as out of our 11 stands shown on our 1.9+ server; only four are completely accessible by players on the 1.8 network.
"Make more games on 1.8 - that should boost its player count!"
Unfortunately, it is not as simple as that. We're at a stage in our growth that updating the 1.8 network is ultimately a time sink - the time put into considering 1.8 on our network, with the limitations it causes and the clear lack of players that it pulls, is something that we’ve been concerned about for the last couple of months. Especially when comparing it to our entire network...
... 1.8 is pulling anywhere between 0.7-1.2 % of our entire player base, and the majority of our decisions in terms of design and gameplay mechanics are being stagnated because of it.
With the removal of 1.8 in mind, we will be able to focus more of our development efforts towards our Bedrock and 1.12+ networks - this includes vital parts such as Sentinel, where 1.8 anti-cheat development can be viewed as a larger cat-and-mouse game, which we, unfortunately, are not able to sustain at this moment.
The possibility of having completely separate networks, so dropping 1.9-1.12, making a 1.12.2+ server, and a 1.8 server would still mean a lot of cautionary measures would need to be made. For example, if we make a new map in the future for Survival Games, Lucky Islands, a new hub, or anything along the lines of that, we'll still need to think about the implementation of these onto our networks. This means that while we're updating our server, we're still limited, which is the opposite of what we're trying to achieve.
Simply put, we have a lot of plans for the future, and we believe that we want to take the next step forward. Which is limited at the moment with the continuous consideration for 1.8. Upgrading to 1.12.2 will allow us to have access to so many new features for both our Java and Bedrock server that we'd love to have at our disposal.
1.8 has been carrying us since the end of 2014 and has brought us success that we have been amazingly privileged to be a part of. However, it's reached a point that it's limiting the capabilities that we can truly achieve.
Our decision regarding 1.8
As a result, we've decided the following:
- For the next couple of months, our 1.8 network will be remaining online.
- On the 15th of June 2021, we will be shutting our 1.8 network.
- On the same day, we will also be dropping support for 1.9-1.11, and will be supporting all versions from 1.12.2 onwards!
"What if I bought a rank because of your 1.8 network?"
If you have made a purchase in the last 14 days and would like to request a refund, please email sales@cubecraft.net, and we can look into it. This does not include used items, such as if you had bought a multiplier and used it, it would not be eligible for a refund.
We still invite you to check out our 1.12.2+ network, packed full of the fast-paced minigames previously on our 1.8 network, alongside our other amazing games, including BlockWars, Among Slimes, Skyblock and a whole featured games system!
If you're still enjoying the 1.8 PvP mechanic, you can also check out our Bedrock server. This is full of the games you know on our Java server, with the addition of custom modelled loot, game-specific lobbies, and a plethora of supporting content coming soon!
Community Talk
We feel like there are concerns that will need to be addressed, which we haven't mentioned.
As a result, we would like to invite you all to a community talk, hosted on our Discord, where we can address these concerns. This will take place on Saturday 17th April 2021 at 6 pm BST. If you cannot make it, don't worry, we'll post notes on the contents of the talk.
We want CubeCraft to be the best and offer the greatest content-driven gaming experience. In order to push these boundaries, this is the next step forward.
Thank you for reading!
Still though sucks for 1.8 players. Skywars was still active but i suppose it's the only game that was. Probably for the best but damn it sucks
I can see the frustration of this decision but if you look at the big picture 1.8 didn't really do good so removing it wouldn't be such a bad decision :\
Yeah, I agree even if I can't play in 1.9 due to my incredible pvp skills
No, it's not. 1.8 can't live forever
With 600 players, 450 were on SkyWars. I play online for SkyWars
I will not play on Hypixel with a lot of cheaters and high pingWell, Hive closed, Cube is closing 1.8. I think Hypixel will breathe a sigh of relief now.
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Did you understand what I said? I said that removing 1.8 isn't such a bad idea -_-
As an mostly 1.8 player this is the only reason I logged back to the websites after a couple months of not logging in had passed. I was playing in Cube after a quite long time with my old friends. One of them told me to "Enjoy the server". First I was very confused why. Soon after they told me that 1.8 is closing in a few months.
It can tell a lot about the future direction of this server, but I don't feel like it is realistic to think "1.8 community is only a bit above 1% of the entire player base" When most of the players actually are on bedrock. 1.9 and above players is also a little amount of players compared to the amount of bedrock players. I know when 1.9 -> servers have 4000 players, 1.8 only has less than 1000. During the European night time, both of these versions have a clearly lower player amount, as a majority of the server's players do live in European / Asian timezones.
I clearly get and understand the idea of "future updates" and actually am very surprised the 1.8 server is closing now, not like an year ago, when the server started acting unfair towards 1.8 community. A lot of unfair bans, mutes and just not appreciating 1.8 players same way like 1.9, just like we would have been in lower class because we preferred the old version of the server.
As I already mentioned, I understand why are you doing this, but 1.8 is a special place for people who really have played it. A lot of bad and good memories, but never forgettable. Many bans and mutes, but still memories. Many toxic players and friend groups, but still a part of the community. To a 1.9 -> player it would not seem special at all, but it really is a special community. For example me, about 1.5 years ago when I just did not care about anything in my real life. I just enjoyed and loved the time after school and in the weekends when I could get online, 1.8 Cube and eggwars with friends. Some were enemies but afterwards they just turned out to be my best friends online in the future. <3
1.8 and it's own community forever.
It can tell a lot about the future direction of this server, but I don't feel like it is realistic to think "1.8 community is only a bit above 1% of the entire player base" When most of the players actually are on bedrock. 1.9 and above players is also a little amount of players compared to the amount of bedrock players. I know when 1.9 -> servers have 4000 players, 1.8 only has less than 1000. During the European night time, both of these versions have a clearly lower player amount, as a majority of the server's players do live in European / Asian timezones.
I clearly get and understand the idea of "future updates" and actually am very surprised the 1.8 server is closing now, not like an year ago, when the server started acting unfair towards 1.8 community. A lot of unfair bans, mutes and just not appreciating 1.8 players same way like 1.9, just like we would have been in lower class because we preferred the old version of the server.
As I already mentioned, I understand why are you doing this, but 1.8 is a special place for people who really have played it. A lot of bad and good memories, but never forgettable. Many bans and mutes, but still memories. Many toxic players and friend groups, but still a part of the community. To a 1.9 -> player it would not seem special at all, but it really is a special community. For example me, about 1.5 years ago when I just did not care about anything in my real life. I just enjoyed and loved the time after school and in the weekends when I could get online, 1.8 Cube and eggwars with friends. Some were enemies but afterwards they just turned out to be my best friends online in the future. <3
1.8 and it's own community forever.1.8 is the place of memories. Sure I don't even play on the Java server anymore.. but like that guy said 3 posts above.. its memories. One time, I said I will probably visit the server many years later but the removal of 1.8 stopped me from thinking that
(don't hate on me pls) but the 1.9 combat system is the worst. Cool down pvp is so slow and I never had fun with it. 1.8 is just the place full of memories. The reason why its the most palyed version is because that is the last version of spam click.
I don't want to be forced to use a combat system that is bad. Spam click is fast paced and the only reason why I play 1.8
Now at this point, Hypixel is our only hope. It like the only big server that is using 1.8
I won't forget you CubeCraft Java, I will miss you.
(don't hate on me pls) but the 1.9 combat system is the worst. Cool down pvp is so slow and I never had fun with it. 1.8 is just the place full of memories. The reason why its the most palyed version is because that is the last version of spam click.
I don't want to be forced to use a combat system that is bad. Spam click is fast paced and the only reason why I play 1.8
Now at this point, Hypixel is our only hope. It like the only big server that is using 1.8
I won't forget you CubeCraft Java, I will miss you.
1.8 has been a major time hog because the ratio between cheaters and normal players is much lower than 1.9, so yes.
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