Java Bedrock improved anticheat idea

[foxyops]

Not exactly sure how implemetable this would be, but I had an idea for an anticheat that could rid of most hackers if implemented correctly.
not exactly sure how anticheat as a awhole works so my idea instead works around it by adding heightened levels of security over newer accounts. I think depending on how many hours of active playtime a player has, the anticheat should be more restrictive, for example, if someone has an effective 100% winrate in a game like bedwars with 1 hour of playtime and 5 separate reports and said player, the player should receive a form of security ban untill reviewed by moderators later. of course the exact numbers of win rate, playtime, and number of reports may be vastly different then what i said, i think a system like this could prevent 90% of hackers from lasting longer then a match. i also think the same system could be implemented on something like battle arena were if a low hour count player gets a certain amount of kills in a very short period of time, they could get security banned untill reviewed by a moderator.

the most obvious counterpoint to this being false bans, but i think falsebans would exist in most anticheat systems anyways, and i dont think this would get that many, this is also why i think security bans untill reviewed by moderators would be more fitting. any anticheat would have ups and downs and i think it would be better for it to stop 95% of hackers with .1% false bans then 5% of hackers with 0% false bans.

 

[Borisje]

i have another idea with this, with the report command in game

you are able to see their kdr playtime account age, if its all high and stuff its very suspicious of a hacker and you can report them then with the suspicion theyre hacker which they probably are

if this is not easy to make, atleast add a notification that pops up on your screen when the hacker you reported with /report or /sr has been punished by a cheater or anticheat, or if u are not on when the hacker gets banned you get notification when you join the server the next time

 

[aquaa]

i agree with this goofy random

 

[Parkr]

I agree that there needs to be better solutions for dealing with hackers, but I tend to lean more toward just improving the current reporting system than something like this.

My main gripe with this is just because a player is new to the server doesn't mean they’re new to the game, or bad at it for that matter. I also know how often people submit false reports. I've had plenty of games where someone gets called out for hacking simply because they were new and doing well, when it was pretty clear they weren’t actually cheating.

 

[thediamondroblox]

Hey, from what I observed, the cubecraft team has continuously been working on improving the anti cheat, it’s a continuous and never ending responsibility to maintain network wide sustainability

Unfortunately, on bedrock they are limited because of Minecraft itself but I believe on the java cubecraft network, anti cheat is way more powerful.

They probably don’t have any technical info to tell us further, the whole anti cheat infra is not disclosed to anyone and this is a reasonable security measure

I personally believe this is the best of the best sentinel bedrock anti cheat they could implement in production right now, anything further can disrupt innocent players experience. They’ve continuously improved it over the years, I’ve seen it happen and I trust the team

Suggesting an engineering approach to implement an algorithm is likely far from being accepted from cubecraft’s pov as this compromises a part of their anti cheat functionality

 

[lexieisinlove]

i have another idea with this, with the report command in game

you are able to see their kdr playtime account age, if its all high and stuff its very suspicious of a hacker and you can report them then with the suspicion theyre hacker which they probably are

if this is not easy to make, atleast add a notification that pops up on your screen when the hacker you reported with /report or /sr has been punished by a cheater or anticheat, or if u are not on when the hacker gets banned you get notification when you join the server the next time

Butttt what if theyre just a experienced player on a new account??? A lot of people could have high kdr just because theyre better than the players they got matched against.. in OG eggwars I had games with 0 deaths and 20 kills sooo would that make me a cheater

 

[L1kii]

Butttt what if theyre just an experienced player on a new account??? A lot of people could have high kdr just because theyre better than the players they got matched against.. in OG eggwars I had games with 0 deaths and 20 kills sooo would that make me a cheater

Same what I was thinking, it might ban legit players

 

[Borisje]

Butttt what if theyre just a experienced player on a new account??? A lot of people could have high kdr just because theyre better than the players they got matched against.. in OG eggwars I had games with 0 deaths and 20 kills sooo would that make me a cheater

would make you more suspicious because not EVERYONE is a pro on an alt

you need to have suspicion theyre cheating due to you seeing them suspiciously act hinting at cheats but the kdr showing may help

 

[L1kii]

would make you more suspicious because not EVERYONE is a pro on an alt

you need to have suspicion theyre cheating due to you seeing them suspiciously act hinting at cheats but the kdr showing may help

If you are high lvl on main account, you have experience and you can play this game. Would you switch to an alt, I dont think you would play worse just because it's your alt. Or would you?

The biggest problem for high lvl/leaderboard players is that they get targeted or sniped, even they don't want too. They switch to an alt and enjoy the peace and are randoms in this game. It's not making them suspicious in my eyes.

 

[Desta22]

Not exactly sure how implemetable this would be, but I had an idea for an anticheat that could rid of most hackers if implemented correctly.
not exactly sure how anticheat as a awhole works so my idea instead works around it by adding heightened levels of security over newer accounts. I think depending on how many hours of active playtime a player has, the anticheat should be more restrictive, for example, if someone has an effective 100% winrate in a game like bedwars with 1 hour of playtime and 5 separate reports and said player, the player should receive a form of security ban untill reviewed by moderators later. of course the exact numbers of win rate, playtime, and number of reports may be vastly different then what i said, i think a system like this could prevent 90% of hackers from lasting longer then a match. i also think the same system could be implemented on something like battle arena were if a low hour count player gets a certain amount of kills in a very short period of time, they could get security banned untill reviewed by a moderator.

the most obvious counterpoint to this being false bans, but i think falsebans would exist in most anticheat systems anyways, and i dont think this would get that many, this is also why i think security bans untill reviewed by moderators would be more fitting. any anticheat would have ups and downs and i think it would be better for it to stop 95% of hackers with .1% false bans then 5% of hackers with 0% false bans.

I think this would be too harsh because a lot of people would end up being false banned, which would get a lot of backlash. Maybe instead, we should be able to write a username after /report instead of the normal menue ( atleast on java ) so we can report them when not in the same game.

 

[lexieisinlove]

If you are high lvl on main account, you have experience and you can play this game. Would you switch to an alt, I dont think you would play worse just because it's your alt. Or would you?

The biggest problem for high lvl/leaderboard players is that they get targeted or sniped, even they don't want too. They switch to an alt and enjoy the peace and are randoms in this game. It's not making them suspicious in my eyes.

yes thats what I was trying to say... and sometimes you just make a new account no apparent reason just because you might want some alone time without getting invited or you had this crazy ign idea.

 

[lexieisinlove]

would make you more suspicious because not EVERYONE is a pro on an alt

you need to have suspicion theyre cheating due to you seeing them suspiciously act hinting at cheats but the kdr showing may help

suspicion is subjective and based on your opinion and POV, which we know is highly affected by things like FOV, Ping and your general skill level. If someone is better than you, you might think they're not legit and report them but they're actually just a skilled player... and not to inform that this system would be highly abused and exploited in ffa