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Just make the elytra have low durability (and prevent fall damage from the drop) -- they auto-disable when they reach 1 durability.

Ah yes, the damage immunity argument. At least he understands that the reason the attack cooldown is as long as it is is so that it matches up with damage immunity. My basic point is that the rate of attack should be the about the same as the rate of damage -- spamclicking just for the sake of...

Would prefer 1.9+ melee combat over guns, and I'm honestly perplexed over the decision to use laggy floating pigs instead of elytra as the parachute.

If you don't want enchanting to be important, then just get rid of enchantments from the game almost entirely -- make only the chests at mid have enchants, for example.

Seriously. Every game with loot chests on this server has them filled with pre-enchanted gear, unless people are playing in Hardcore mode (which I haven't seen somebody vote for in ages). What even is the purpose of all the free XP bottles we get from these chests if all of our armor has Prot I...

Still waiting for that server protocol update to 1.12.2... Or I suppose you're waiting for 1.13? Because I'm really tired of having weak-sauce diamond armor and near-useless shields, and the mouse-delay bug that 1.11 fixed. And 1.10+ items would be neat, like Totem of Undying.

Oh yes, because one person who has played on both definitely has an accurate sample size to make an assertion about the whole server.

Wait, there's corpses now, and they give saturation? Sneaking reduces fall damage!? In what games!? Axes deal less damage? I mean that's good, but are the listed stats on the axes altered to reflect that?

So, Cubecraft is still not even on 1.9.2 protocol?! Because that update added Armor Toughness that makes diamond armor much stronger than iron. I hope at least when 1.13 comes out you'll finally update the server properly to the current version again.

No, he's saying that he isn't disappointed in the gameplay updates - he's disappointed in things like the Marketplace on the Bedrock Edition. Besides, 1.9 (or any other Java update) isn't for "more money" - Mojang lost quite a few people from the current version of the game due to the 1.9 update.

Cube has a pretty poorly-designed kitpvp system - you can't drop pots, for example. PM me for a different server to test on.

Toughness doesn't make it weaker - it increases armor effectiveness against the 1.9 armor nerf. Sharp V dia sword only has higher dps in 1.8 than 1.9+ against low-armor players; 1.9+ has more than double dps against OP armor than in 1.8. And I was being generous with the Prot RNG, assuming the...

In 1.9, armor was nerfed such that higher-damage attacks pierce armor better than low-damage attacks. Specifically, for every 1 damage point a single attack does, 2% of the armor protection is ignored. Toughness was added in 1.9.2 to counteract this nerf, and it only appears naturally on diamond...

You got that reduced kb thing from Tenebrous, didn't you? Most people don't/didn't know about that anyways,they only click fast because there isn't a reason not to. They didn't change EULA - they started enforcing it. And there are 1.9+ faction servers, I just don't like factions as it is...

Don't even pretend like only one version or the other has 12-year-olds all over it; they're everywhere. 1.12 pvp is much more fun than 1.7's cookie-clicker, need-at-least-20-Badlion-plugins-to-make-it-playable pvp. Factions has been a garbage pay-to-win system for the past... 6 years. Most...

I think the general structure of Infection is great, although the general over-effectiveness of camping and hiding is a bit of a nuisance. Nevertheless, it is as advertised: last-second games almost every time. However, there is one aspect that, while not game-breaking, is a bit of an issue for...

Are you actually joking? Where did I get the information about the attack cooldown in 1.9+? I dunno, maybe from playing 1.9+ and seeing how long I had to wait between fully-charged swings, the Minecraft Wiki, or just basic math - just take the inverse of the "1.6 attack speed" value that's...

At this point you're just being willfully ignorant. I must have told you at least 8 times by now that the time between attacks in 1.9+ is only .62 seconds. That cooldown is definitely short enough that snowball-stalling can be a thing. People don't have more time to run away between hits.

^ No because the very thing that makes 1.7 people think they're better than 1.12 people is their ability to click a lot.

Are you having auto-correct problems? Rods are usable in 1.9+ for the pull function, or you can use the kb-rod plugin like 1.8- servers do. Snowballs are still a thing in 1.9+ Offhand for other things is still very useful, and shield is only useless on Cubecraft because it's still on 1.9...

Read OP again.

The game only starts when the minimum is reached, sure, but I'm saying that, in the lobby, people get to choose which team they can join, and there's barely any restriction on which team a player can choose to join. You can literally have a game of 30 people where 20 of them choose one team...

... No I mean auto-balancing before the game starts, obviously.

leave what like the others? I'm saying make every team game auto-balance.

That's what I said: "Add a downgraded version for you".

Okay... so apparently nobody seems to understand that when I say "bring back auto-balancing", I mean "bring back the pre-game auto-balance system Cubecraft used to have". I don't know where you all got the notion that I was asking for mid-game rebalancing. I'm aware that parties need to be able...

What on earth about Cube is so uniquely special and amazingly better than other servers that you want Cube to add a downgraded version for you?

All of this besides the point that I don't care whether you prefer 1.9+ or not - the 1.7 community shouldn't be opposed to servers using 1.9+ mechanics in new games, and shouldn't be trying to get 1.9+ servers to cater to their old system.

No... you literally cannot hit a person 3 times within one second, because of the .5s damage immunity. No rodding does not work in 1.8 what server are you testing it on? In 1.9 that potpvp match could be much shorter, actually; it most certainly wouldn't take longer than 1.8, for the following...

How many times do I have to say it before you stop exaggerating your arguments? It's 1.6 cps for swords in 1.9+. End of story. How many times have I had to explain to you that you can hit about twice a second, effectively the same as in 1.8? You just don't have to click all the time in between...