All Networks The tape ban for drag clicking

[emptypandora]

I'm not sure if drag clicking is allowed but if it is. I think it doesn't make sense whether if its with tape or not it.

Drag clicking is, and that's kinda the point being made

 

[emptypandora]

I think allowing the use of the tape is wrong and unfair to other players. Especially considering that we are talking about Bedrock Edition, which was originally designed to be played on mobile devices. Most players use touch screens or gamepads. They do not have access to drag-click capabilities, much less "improvements" like the tape. It turns out that someone on a PC with a mouse and tape gets 30+ CPS, and another player on a phone cannot compete at all. This breaks the balance and puts players on an unequal footing. If a person really knows how to drag click, he should be able to do it without the tape. The tape is already a mechanical boost. It makes drag click more stable. This is no longer just a "skill", it is an attempt to bypass the hardware limitation. By allowing the tape, we open the way for other controversial "improvements" non-standard modifications. where it is not skill that wins, but equipment. This is unfair and makes the game less accessible to regular players. I am against allowing the use of the tape and other external modifications. Minecraft Bedrock should remain accessible and fair for all platforms.
If someone wants to click 30+ CPS with tape, let them go to Java, where such mechanics are the norm.
And in Bedrock Edition, a balance between platforms must be maintained. The captain changed the rules, the anti-cheat allows up to 15 CPS, but in practice, players calmly click at 40-50 CPS, and the system does not react. If the limit exists, it should work stably and equally for everyone. My suggestion: to improve the anti-cheat so that it: records excess CPS (for example, over 20), reacts equally to any clicking techniques, automatically kicks or punishes violators. Then there will be no need to argue about the tape, mice and other methods, everyone will be

where it is not skill that wins, but equipment. So ban PC players full stop then ?

 

[sebasxd12]

El objetivo de esta publicación NO es fomentar las trampas, sino garantizar la coherencia y la imparcialidad. Si se permiten ratones con textura de fábrica optimizados para arrastrar y hacer clic (como el A70x), añadir cinta adhesiva para replicar esa textura en un ratón económico no es hacer trampa, sino nivelar el campo de juego . La cinta adhesiva NO automatiza nada; solo añade agarre. Y el servidor ya permite arrastrar y hacer clic, por lo que prohibir un método que ayuda a algunos a lograrlo de forma más efectiva contradice las normas vigentes . La imparcialidad debería centrarse en la función, no en el coste. En lugar de controlar lo que la gente hace básicamente con el ratón, algo que ni siquiera se puede detectar, establezcan un límite de CPS como en otros servidores importantes. Esto es aplicable, claro y justo para todos los dispositivos de entrada.

Los malditos ratones A70x son muy caros, ¿sabes?

norteh thats cheap only 50 dollars

¿s?

 

[Mouseh]

* Disclamer: I am replying to the bottom of your post about A Clean and Fair Solution. *

An actual clean and fair solution would be a CPS cap of around 10. The vast majority of players on the network are not even using a mouse to begin with, so when they come across people who heavily crutch on Drag-clicking to win they stand little chance.
They aren't able to spam blocks at insane speeds below or in front of them to avoid damage or block clutch and thats not even counting using it in PvP. Moreover, drag-clicking requires little to no skill to implement what so ever. You maintain full control of the mouse while doing so which Isn't the same as someone who is using other methods such as Jitter-clicking or Butterfly-clicking.

Drag-clicking should have stayed banned and anyone who disagrees that the method as a whole Isn't an unfair advantage is simply wrong.

Please read the full post before replying.​

This post is only about the use of tape for drag clicking. It is not about whether drag clicking itself should be allowed.​

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The current rule:​

“Making physical modifications to your mouse to increase your CPS. If you do, the moderation team or our anticheat may restrict your access to our server.”

Why this rule doesn’t make sense​

Tape is not cheating. It doesn't automate clicks, doesn’t change internal mouse behavior, and doesn’t give anyone an unfair advantage over users with more expensive mice like the Bloody A70x or Roccat Kain, which ship with textured buttons designed for drag clicking.
If the exact same texture is allowed when sold by for example Bloody or Turtle Beach, then replicating that texture manually should not be classified as cheating.

All tape does is replicate the exact same texture by applying a small piece of tape to cheaper mice that otherwise wouldn’t register your drag clicks properly. Tape only adds grip, it only works if the player has mastered drag clicking. It doesn’t click by itself.

If those factory made buttons are allowed, then tape that creates the exact same surface should be allowed too.

Let’s break this down​

-A Bloody A70x or Roccat Kain ships with textured buttons made for drag clicking out of the box. That’s allowed.
-A $10 office mouse with a piece of electrical tape to achieve the same texture? And that’s not allowed?
So what exactly is being punished here, the clicking method or how expensive your mouse is?

This rule punishes players who can’t afford higher end gear and forces everyone to either buy specific mice or be stuck with unfair limitations.

The inconsistency​

This rule enforces “no hardware modifications,” but where’s the line?
-What about Glorious mouse grip tape, officially sold by Glorious themselves?
-And just to push the logic, what if I put tape on my finger, not the mouse? Is that allowed? Because that’s not a mouse modification.

If using tape counts as cheating, then the A70x and other drag optimized mice are essentially pay to win tools that exploit the same mechanical principle, but they’re allowed because it was done by the manufacturer?
That doesn’t make sense. Judgement should be based on function, not origin. If a modification mimics legal hardware with no added automation it should not be treated differently

Other major PvP servers like Hypixel don’t ban tape. Why? Because it’s not a real issue. There’s no automation, no artificial CPS inflation, just a different surface texture for grip.
Drag clicking itself is allowed on CubeCraft. So why ban the one thing that simply makes it easier on budget mice?

Another big problem is that this rule is almost impossible to enforce fairly.
How exactly can staff or the anticheat tell if someone has tape on their mouse? You can’t see tape through gameplay, you can’t detect it with software and you can’t prove it without physically inspecting someone’s mouse, which obviously isn’t possible online.
So what does enforcement come down to? Suspicion? Accusations? Players admitting it?

That’s not a fair or consistent system. If tape can’t be detected then banning it serves no purpose other than punishing honest players who admit to using it, while others just stay silent and play on.

A clear and fair solution​

If CubeCraft wants to prevent extreme CPS abuse then do what other servers do, implement a CPS cap.

That removes the gray area entirely. It doesn’t matter how you click, as long as you stay under 20 CPS (or whatever limit is set). It’s clear, fair, and enforceable without extra confusion or unnecessary restrictions. It treats a taped button and a factory textured button the same, and keeps drag clicking accessible for all players, regardless of their gear.
(Or stick with the auto kick system that’s already in place.)


If I’m missing something here please let me know, but I and almost everyone I’ve spoken with, just don’t understand this rule.

TL;DR:​

Tape doesn’t click for you, it doesn’t modify hardware behavior. It simply replicates the textured surface of higher end mice, nothing more. Remove the tape ban and make it fair for all players, not just those who can afford €50-70 mice.

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Reminder: This post is only about the use of tape for drag clicking. It’s not about whether drag clicking should be allowed, that’s a different discussion.​

 

[powerop]

well said winnaar!

 

[Diftzy]

If a console and mobile players are stuck between 0-8 cps why should kbm player be allowed to click 25+ cps. Also this would just widen the already big skill gap for people who don't use kbm.

 

[emptypandora]

If a console and mobile players are stuck between 0-8 cps why should kbm player be allowed to click 25+ cps. Also this would just widen the already big skill gap for people who don't use kbm.

So ban PC players ?

And you know both console and mobile players can use kbm right?

 

[Diftzy]

So ban PC players ?

And you know both console and mobile players can use kbm right?

I kinda worded it wrong now i look back at it but no thats not what im saying im saying that tape would just increase the skill gap and kbm is already an advantage in almost every way possible so why make it even more of an advantage and not every console and mobile device can use kbm

 

[emptypandora]

I kinda worded it wrong now i look back at it but no thats not what im saying im saying that tape would just increase the skill gap and kbm is already an advantage in almost every way possible so why make it even more of an advantage and not every console and mobile device can use kbm

But that kinda isn't the point. If the server allows drag click, whether that's a disadvantage to others or not, then using tape on a basic mouse to achieve the same clicking that is already allowed is nothing. If you feel there is a gap between console and kbm players, I'd agree, but for me it's only the same as CC allowing software to alter debounce settings in order to allow more clicks to register. It's the player making the clicks not the mouse and that's the same with drag and drag with tape.

 

[Diftzy]

But that kinda isn't the point. If the server allows drag click, whether that's a disadvantage to others or not, then using tape on a basic mouse to achieve the same clicking that is already allowed is nothing. If you feel there is a gap between console and kbm players, I'd agree, but for me it's only the same as CC allowing software to alter debounce settings in order to allow more clicks to register. It's the player making the clicks not the mouse and that's the same with drag and drag with tape.

First of all controller and mobile player cannot change there debounce time so double clicking is already an incredible advantage and then adding drag click with no tape increases this imbalance and then add tape which now is a massive advantage to pc player, who drag.

And you know both console and mobile players can use kbm right?

Although yes many device do allow this here's a list of all the devices that do not allow this (i did use chatgpt for the devices, so correct if wrong)
iPhone 13 / 14 / 15
Samsung Galaxy S24
Google Pixel 8 / 8a / 8 Pro
OnePlus 12
Xiaomi 14
Nintendo Switch Lite
Nintendo switch 1

If you feel there is a gap between console and kbm players, I'd agree

You yourself agree there's an advantage from pc to mobile/controller. Yes, if its pc vs pc then yes I think you should be allowed to use tape but its not most of the time and you can't just allow it in certain situations.