Yes but I wanted to say every mode in normal the price is i think 10? Idk anymore but i love the prices right now so i say a NO. -1
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Im not sure if the most like to fight with a Gapple
In SPEED eggwars, the price per apple is 10 gold in normal mode. SPEED eggwars doesn't get affected by this change.
Sorry, but I'm not looking for this type of solution, as it doesn't at all fix the problem.
Aside from that, they also have protection 4 armour you need to break through. Damage isn't going to do much if they eat on time, as you physically can't do any more damage than you're dealing already.
"Keep a spare set of armour on you and you should be fine" is a valid point, however what do you do if they have way more sets than you do?
Are you going to tell me "buy more sets than you usually do?
If so, don't. That's something you can only think of in hindsight, as barely anybody ever brings 2 extra sets, let alone an inventory full.
"just buy a notch apple"
Sounds good, doesn't work.
Why?
You can get plenty of golden apples by the time you have access to diamonds, meaning that this issue can occur before you've even touched a diamond.
In Closing:
Basically you just don't like the way some people play or you're not good at using the same strat as they use, which isn't a bad thing, and you want them to change it because you don't feel like buying more apples. Its the same as butterfly clicking or the fishing rod strat on other servers. Some people are good at it and some people aren't. Just because someone can time when to eat an apple to keep them alive doesn't mean that the whole game should change just because some people cant do the same.
The prot 4 armour part was mainly to tell you that you can't simply kill them while they're eating since you can't do more damage than he's recovering from if they eat an apple. That just doesn't work out in OP mode.
The more apples you get, the more they get. It's usually a better idea to get them before they become too geared, otherwise they'll just be a bigger pain to fight.
If someone has better armour and/or better weapons, I usually don't lose a fight. I can probably break three or so sets of the same type before I completely go through one of mine.
However, if someone has way more apples than me, I can't kill him until he runs out of them. For instance: If I were to take on an iron guy that had lots of apples while I used a wooden sword, I wouldn't be able to kill him unless either of these two thing happen:
-His armour breaks, he has no extra sets
-He runs out of apples
What golden apples do, is basically recover from the damage you took faster than someone can deal damage to you. I wouldn't call it too fair if someone ate a thousand gapples through the entire fight without you being able to do much about it.
I don't remember me mentioning getting knocked off of a bridge...
All I said was that there are maps which have the shop a few blocks away from the edge, meaning that anyone could easily be knocked off within a second or so.
I won't be able to convince you, and you won't be able to convince me.
However, I do have a few questions:
Would you care if the price was increased? Would you hate it if it were decreased? Do you do this chug apples yourself?
What about the rest of that quote that you selected though?
Now: What do you do when you get into a fight where the player is skilled and they have plenty of apples & actually know when to eat them on time to prevent death? (skilled = experienced, they have extra sets)
This occurs pretty often, so you should know how to deal with this, right?
Increasing the price of a golden apple in OP Eggwars
- Thread starter Gainfullterror
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It's easy to kill people with better gear. Just play normal or bait them to the edge / bridge.
But I like to play with gapples im pretty sure not everyone but the most like to fight with Gapples.
Im not sure if the most like to fight with a Gapple
I do strongly agree with this suggestion.
However, isn't the thing about "overpowered" to have it completely overpowered?
However, isn't the thing about "overpowered" to have it completely overpowered?
Gainfullterror
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In NORMAL mode, the price per apple is 2 gold. As I stated previously, this applies to OP mode on NORMAL eggwars.
In SPEED eggwars, the price per apple is 10 gold in normal mode. SPEED eggwars doesn't get affected by this change.
I like the prices and i DONT need changes in price im saying it for myself others have their opinions.
this suggestion is pointless. if you are complaining about how many apples someone buys then just buy more yourself. I dont even use golden apples during fights and i think this idea is stupid. In the time it takes you to eat an apple you will be hit at least 6 times. Thats 6 more hits on the armor of the person eating the apple opposed to the person not eating them. The persons armor that is eating the apples is gonna break much faster. and an apple only gives you 4 hearts. If you are in op and have a sharp 5 sword that is only 2 hits if they have full iron armor. And if you have a sharp 5 sword you are gonna break iron armor pretty quick. Ive never had a problem killing people that eat apples. If you are good enough at pvp then it shouldnt matter. Just because someone is better than you doesnt mean the server should change things. Its all about skill. Everyone has their own way of playing. Its up to you to adapt. If apples are so cheap then you should just buy them too. With a level 4 gold gen you can get an apple every second. I really dont see this as a problem. Just keep a spare set of armor on you and you should be fine. and if you think golden apples are that big of a problem for you just buy a notch apple. with the regen and resistance you will out last a person that eats 20 apples
I think we should just keep the Golden Apple Price where it is (but I do hate the people with like 2 stacks of golden apples)
Gainfullterror
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The typical "submit to the broken tactic to win" answer.
Sorry, but I'm not looking for this type of solution, as it doesn't at all fix the problem.
'Tis a dear shame that you can only get a sharp 2 version of each sword, with the sharp 5 diamond being an exception.
Aside from that, they also have protection 4 armour you need to break through. Damage isn't going to do much if they eat on time, as you physically can't do any more damage than you're dealing already.
You can't really get easy access to apples if the shop is a block or two away from the edge, as it only takes, what, less than a second or so to knock someone off?
"Keep a spare set of armour on you and you should be fine" is a valid point, however what do you do if they have way more sets than you do?
Are you going to tell me "buy more sets than you usually do?
If so, don't. That's something you can only think of in hindsight, as barely anybody ever brings 2 extra sets, let alone an inventory full.
"just buy a notch apple"
Sounds good, doesn't work.
Why?
You can get plenty of golden apples by the time you have access to diamonds, meaning that this issue can occur before you've even touched a diamond.
it takes the same amount of hits to break protection 4 iron armor as it takes to break normal iron armor. The protection level has nothing to do with the durability.
You can buy the apples before you even leave your base on most maps. furthermore if they can hit you off if you are trying to buy them, wouldn't you be able to do the same thing to them????
Basically what you are saying is that its not fair for someone to have more stuff than you. You have a problem when someone has more apples than you and now you have a problem if they have more armor than you.
exactly the point i made to where you said about getting knocked off when you are buying them. If you have access to golden apples before you even touch diamonds than that means that you never have to leave your base to get apples. There would be no bridge to your base so how would you get knocked off.
In Closing:
Basically you just don't like the way some people play or you're not good at using the same strat as they use, which isn't a bad thing, and you want them to change it because you don't feel like buying more apples. Its the same as butterfly clicking or the fishing rod strat on other servers. Some people are good at it and some people aren't. Just because someone can time when to eat an apple to keep them alive doesn't mean that the whole game should change just because some people cant do the same.
Gainfullterror
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I never meant to imply that the protection value had affected how much durability damage armour can take. I was saying that you can only get sharpness 2 swords, aside from the sharpness 5 diamond sword.
The prot 4 armour part was mainly to tell you that you can't simply kill them while they're eating since you can't do more damage than he's recovering from if they eat an apple. That just doesn't work out in OP mode.
Think of it like this:
The more apples you get, the more they get. It's usually a better idea to get them before they become too geared, otherwise they'll just be a bigger pain to fight.
Well, sort of.
If someone has better armour and/or better weapons, I usually don't lose a fight. I can probably break three or so sets of the same type before I completely go through one of mine.
However, if someone has way more apples than me, I can't kill him until he runs out of them. For instance: If I were to take on an iron guy that had lots of apples while I used a wooden sword, I wouldn't be able to kill him unless either of these two thing happen:
-His armour breaks, he has no extra sets
-He runs out of apples
What golden apples do, is basically recover from the damage you took faster than someone can deal damage to you. I wouldn't call it too fair if someone ate a thousand gapples through the entire fight without you being able to do much about it.
What does "never leaving your base" have anything to do with dealing with someone chugging?
I don't remember me mentioning getting knocked off of a bridge...
All I said was that there are maps which have the shop a few blocks away from the edge, meaning that anyone could easily be knocked off within a second or so.
It's not that I'm bad at doing the same, but rather I absolutely despise this tactic. Someone who isn't good at it probably won't even stand a chance.
I won't be able to convince you, and you won't be able to convince me.
However, I do have a few questions:
Would you care if the price was increased? Would you hate it if it were decreased? Do you do this chug apples yourself?
if they are eating apples then that means they are not hitting you in turn not dealing and damage to you or your armor. so the person eating the apples will have their armor break alot faster than the person not eating them. and once their armor breaks even with a wooden sword you will deal more damage than is being restored by a golden apple. If you have a sharp 2 iron sword and someone with no armor eats a notch apple you can still kill them, even during their regin period from the apple. The amount of apples shouldnt matter once their armor is broken.
untrue as i just explained
you said and i quote "You can't really get easy access to apples if the shop is a block or two away from the edge, as it only takes, what, less than a second or so to knock someone off?" which was a reply to me saying if the apples are so cheap than why dont you just buy them too. So yes you did say something about getting knocked off.
if wouldnt matter to me if a golden apple gets raised to 500 diamonds for 1 because i dont buy golden apples. I start with the healer kit and those 2 apples are pretty much the only apples i use. I do not use them in a fight because as i eat the apple they get more hits on me which breaks down my armor, also im really good at pvp so i dont need the apples anyway. Pretty much the only time i use golden apples if i buy them is just to heal after a fight but i wont eat 20 of them to get my health back. Ill get into a fight, win, and then eat a golden apple to get a few hearts back. And then on to the next fight.
Gainfullterror
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...Which means absolutely nothing as this is only a problem when:
(In the main thread)
Did you even read the whole area you quoted?
I misunderstood that: I thought you mentioned something about being knocked off of a bridge, but that wasn't ever said.
What about the rest of that quote that you selected though?
Fair enough, thanks for answering the questions.
Now: What do you do when you get into a fight where the player is skilled and they have plenty of apples & actually know when to eat them on time to prevent death? (skilled = experienced, they have extra sets)
This occurs pretty often, so you should know how to deal with this, right?
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