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As for the link at the end of the thread, I just wanted "new" opinions/thoughts to the topic, not some restated questions...
If you're saying that this has been there for 2 years now if I recall the golden apple price was also there 2 years ago at 1 gold, yet why is it that it's 3 gold now? Oh, right cause people spoke up...right. And after it was implemented people rioted and complained, that they were making them play the game a certain way, yet surprisingly that community is still there and has grown since...so I kinda wanna ask. Are you sure there isn't much change already occurring?
Now as far as affecting just the new people, No, just no, like stated this affects "rushers" as well, when you bridge out, you're creating a liability, not an asset. If someone uses this to their advantage, then your egg is as good as gone, yet that doesn't happen half the time because, by the time you reach that egg, it's more than likely already cover by Obsidian, because the price is just without doubt too cheap. So all that effort and time just to try to break that "rushers" egg was for not. Increasing the price affects both sides, in which you will have to decide how to approach the game, yeah it affects rushers, but it kinda helps balance the game mode, which was the purpose of this thread.
Now I would suggest we converse more on the subject via Discord, but just after replying my discord has been bombarded with death threats, thanks btw @Business_Tiger I'll consider dying but not any time soon. So if you have any more questions rather than making them here, I suggest creating a conversation with me on the forums and we can argue more on the subject, Thanks for taking the time to reply tho.
I disagree.
The price of gapples surging to 3 has made PvP a mess, and you have to conserve your gold when usually you can go all out with it. The entire point of 'Overpowered' mode is that things are ridiculously priced. Gapples should never have increased in price, because now I have to farm 3 times more gold to have enough arrows and gapples to kill spammers.
Anyway,
I do not believe that obsidian price changes are conductive of decent gameplay. Obsidian is not hard to break. All you need is a decent pickaxe.
It's reasonably priced in all game modes, including overpowered, and - as mentioned - the point of overpowered is that items have crazily cheap values.
People might put hundreds of blocks of obsidian on their base, sure, but if you can successfully eliminate everyone and block yourself in, it's easy. The maxed pick literally breaks obsidian in a heart beat.
Those who really want to spend the game grinding gold for obsidian will not care how much it is and will be undeterred.
The fun of sneaking onto bases and breaking masses of obsidian, or eliminating everybody, then doing the latter is removed entirely with this price change.
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
If you speed bridge to an island, the enemies won't even have enough time to get 10 gold ingots, let alone 25.
You can speed bridge with 48 blocks in under 20 seconds.
Let's say you spawn, use your money bags kit to buy blocks (15 iron ingots x 3) that's 45 blocks, and then go to the side of your island and start bridging over. Let's say it takes you 5 seconds to buy your items and get to the side of your island, and 20 seconds to bridge over (Assuming you use all 45 blocks, most maps people rush in only require 20-30)
That's 25 seconds to reach the enemys base.
Now lets take a look at the obsidian perspective, you spawn in, takes you 3 seconds to reach the gold generator, you get 5 gold, now it takes 5 seconds for each gold piece to spawn, since it's a level 1 generator. You already have 5 pieces, and you need 10 more to buy the 5 obsidian for your egg. 5 x 10 = 50 seconds. 50 seconds. The defender has to wait FIFTY SECONDS before they can buy the obsidian they need. You're telling me it takes you more than fifty seconds to rush?
Then that's not rushing, that's called taking your time then whining when the enemy has obsidian.
Lets even look at tea party, the biggest map on tea party. Let's say it takes them 4 seconds to reach the generator, the level 2 gold generator gives 7 gold upfront, then it'll take them 3.5 seconds for each gold piece, since they need 8 more pieces, it will take 28 seconds (8 x 3.5 = 28) By the time they reach the shop keeper it would have been 36 seconds. 36 seconds for them to be able to buy 5 obby. I know for a fact you can buy blocks, speed bridge to your neighboring island in LESS than 36 seconds, so you can literally rush other people ON TEA PARTY.
One of the solutions you propose by changing the price of obsidian from 3 gold to 5, is that it encourages people to rush mid. So essentially what you're doing, is forcing people to play a certain playstyle. You're forcing people to rush mid, not everyone likes rushing, some people like to enjoy and take their time while playing egg wars.
You're also complaining how its unfair that people get to have a lot of obsidian on the egg, it takes 5.5 seconds with the 5Gold Pickaxe to break 1 obsidian.
This is no where near an issue, and shouldnt be treated like one. Yes Golden apples needed an increase in price because they were too easy to get(In my opinion they should be 2 gold, but thats a suggestion for another thread)
A 40 diamond pickaxe breaks an obsidian in a second, so even if they put a lot of obsidian on the egg, it doesn't matter since it'll take you a few seconds to reach the egg.
You don't know what you're talking about, you only want to make the game easier for yourself without thinking about others.
Posting rules is also off topic, just FYI.
If you want helper so bad, just apply. It's literally so moronic and naive to post rules on a post about item changes. I would be more inclined to justify it if you actually contributed prior to your statement, but you didn't, so instead you mindlessly come on here and just echo rules.
This thread is about obsidian prices changing, Marieke. If you want to talk about rules, make an off topic thread somewhere else, instead of not adding to the discussion and posting rules.
Thanks.
PS: I voted no because I think the obsidian price is balanced right now.
Mr. Marieke, I of course saw your forum post, however I quickly ignored it, because I know being banned from helper submissions would never deter a masculine gentleman such as yourself!
Also, who is 'you guys'? You don't know if I know these people. Silly goose!
No this would only make rushing 10x easier. It also lowers the skill gap. Parties with like 5 ppl would agree to this because they don’t know how it feels like getting their egg taken away when they’re the only person on the team who is good. This is a horrible idea please do not add this
Is this a joke?
You said it takes 2 mins for someone to obby their egg, increasing the price almost by double will mean it’ll take almost 4 mins. Imagine sitting in your base for 4 minutes just to put obsidian.
In OP, a diamond pickaxe is 5 gold, there is no need to increase the price of obsidian.
You’re completely adding a suggestion that only benefits rushers, this is a completely horrible suggestion, and should not be implemented
The price of obsidian is perfect the way it is, and should not be changed
You said it takes 2 mins for someone to obby their egg, increasing the price almost by double will mean it’ll take almost 4 mins. Imagine sitting in your base for 4 minutes just to put obsidian.
In OP, a diamond pickaxe is 5 gold, there is no need to increase the price of obsidian.
You’re completely adding a suggestion that only benefits rushers, this is a completely horrible suggestion, and should not be implemented
The price of obsidian is perfect the way it is, and should not be changed
Well let's look at the math if a base is 42 blocks away from yours.
In normal mode, 1 iron = 2 blocks, so 21 iron needed (21 seconds at lvl 1 iron gen). Let's say you want a stone sword, leather, pickaxe and maybe 4 steak (and extra blocks), that is maybe 1 stack + 10 iron. 1 stack 21 overall (85 seconds). Lvl 1 gold gen = 1 gold/5 seconds, so the defender can get 17 gold, let's say 20 gold, so 2/5 of the obby done.
So in normal mode, if you rush a team and want to kill them, they would get 2/5 obby done.
In OP mode, 1 iron = 3 blocks, so 14 iron needed, some extra blocks = 20 iron needed. Stone sword, leather, pickaxe, 4 steak = 41 iron needed. 61 total, so around 1 minute spent on a generator. 60 seconds = 12 gold, so you get 4/5 of the obby done in the time it takes to rush.
So OP mode = twice as fast to get obby before a rusher comes than in normal mode.
I think that is fair if you also factor in that picks in OP mode are faster + pvp takes longer in OP mode.
5 gold per obsidian is too much. It is fine right now IMO.
In normal mode, 1 iron = 2 blocks, so 21 iron needed (21 seconds at lvl 1 iron gen). Let's say you want a stone sword, leather, pickaxe and maybe 4 steak (and extra blocks), that is maybe 1 stack + 10 iron. 1 stack 21 overall (85 seconds). Lvl 1 gold gen = 1 gold/5 seconds, so the defender can get 17 gold, let's say 20 gold, so 2/5 of the obby done.
So in normal mode, if you rush a team and want to kill them, they would get 2/5 obby done.
In OP mode, 1 iron = 3 blocks, so 14 iron needed, some extra blocks = 20 iron needed. Stone sword, leather, pickaxe, 4 steak = 41 iron needed. 61 total, so around 1 minute spent on a generator. 60 seconds = 12 gold, so you get 4/5 of the obby done in the time it takes to rush.
So OP mode = twice as fast to get obby before a rusher comes than in normal mode.
I think that is fair if you also factor in that picks in OP mode are faster + pvp takes longer in OP mode.
5 gold per obsidian is too much. It is fine right now IMO.
Ok I'm a eggwars player that has played for over a year and a half now and this is a terrible idea. The obvious reasons are rushing is 10x easier. Also the speeds of the pickaxe vs the price u think obby should be is not even close, buying obsidian would be a waste of time and take away a major part of eggwars. The prices are perfectly fine the way they are (the prices are balanced) this idea shouldn't be added because it would affect eggwars in a negative way. Rushing would be way up, make it harder for new players, games wouldn't be as fun or last as long. So what I'm saying is keep it the same!
It's people like these that make me question my life...did you at least read any of the previously mentioned posts...
Do me a solid and before making a damn similar post to something that has already been mentioned on this thread, READ THE WHOLE THREAD......
Thank you and good riddance, Onik
Can you do me a favor and not post anything irrelevant to the topic, Thanks <3
As for the link at the end of the thread, I just wanted "new" opinions/thoughts to the topic, not some restated questions...
Onik this idea is so stupid
Yea ofc I'm gonna say the same thing simply because everybody with a functioning brain sees the problem. Btw I said this thread off the top of my head I didn't copy anybody if that's what you're getting at
Yea ofc I'm gonna say the same thing simply because everybody with a functioning brain sees the problem. Btw I said this thread off the top of my head I didn't copy anybody if that's what you're getting at
I'm not saying you're copying anyone, it's just what you mentioned has already been stated, rather than restating the point that has been answered countless times already, just "like" the post that is basically similar to your opinion.
Answer this then
What does changing prices change about eggwars? It's 3 gold it has been for over 2 years get over it
You just want attention and u can't deny that fact
If you keep this up maybe the staff will accept you!
What does changing prices change about eggwars? It's 3 gold it has been for over 2 years get over it
You just want attention and u can't deny that fact
If you keep this up maybe the staff will accept you!
Want attention? Oh, baby, you went there, you best pray you never say anything like this to anyone in the future, but just for you love.
If you're saying that this has been there for 2 years now if I recall the golden apple price was also there 2 years ago at 1 gold, yet why is it that it's 3 gold now? Oh, right cause people spoke up...right. And after it was implemented people rioted and complained, that they were making them play the game a certain way, yet surprisingly that community is still there and has grown since...so I kinda wanna ask. Are you sure there isn't much change already occurring?
Now as far as affecting just the new people, No, just no, like stated this affects "rushers" as well, when you bridge out, you're creating a liability, not an asset. If someone uses this to their advantage, then your egg is as good as gone, yet that doesn't happen half the time because, by the time you reach that egg, it's more than likely already cover by Obsidian, because the price is just without doubt too cheap. So all that effort and time just to try to break that "rushers" egg was for not. Increasing the price affects both sides, in which you will have to decide how to approach the game, yeah it affects rushers, but it kinda helps balance the game mode, which was the purpose of this thread.
Now I would suggest we converse more on the subject via Discord, but just after replying my discord has been bombarded with death threats, thanks btw @Business_Tiger I'll consider dying but not any time soon. So if you have any more questions rather than making them here, I suggest creating a conversation with me on the forums and we can argue more on the subject, Thanks for taking the time to reply tho.
I disagree.
The price of gapples surging to 3 has made PvP a mess, and you have to conserve your gold when usually you can go all out with it. The entire point of 'Overpowered' mode is that things are ridiculously priced. Gapples should never have increased in price, because now I have to farm 3 times more gold to have enough arrows and gapples to kill spammers.
Anyway,
I do not believe that obsidian price changes are conductive of decent gameplay. Obsidian is not hard to break. All you need is a decent pickaxe.
It's reasonably priced in all game modes, including overpowered, and - as mentioned - the point of overpowered is that items have crazily cheap values.
People might put hundreds of blocks of obsidian on their base, sure, but if you can successfully eliminate everyone and block yourself in, it's easy. The maxed pick literally breaks obsidian in a heart beat.
Those who really want to spend the game grinding gold for obsidian will not care how much it is and will be undeterred.
The fun of sneaking onto bases and breaking masses of obsidian, or eliminating everybody, then doing the latter is removed entirely with this price change.
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
If you speed bridge to an island, the enemies won't even have enough time to get 10 gold ingots, let alone 25.
You can speed bridge with 48 blocks in under 20 seconds.
Let's say you spawn, use your money bags kit to buy blocks (15 iron ingots x 3) that's 45 blocks, and then go to the side of your island and start bridging over. Let's say it takes you 5 seconds to buy your items and get to the side of your island, and 20 seconds to bridge over (Assuming you use all 45 blocks, most maps people rush in only require 20-30)
That's 25 seconds to reach the enemys base.
Now lets take a look at the obsidian perspective, you spawn in, takes you 3 seconds to reach the gold generator, you get 5 gold, now it takes 5 seconds for each gold piece to spawn, since it's a level 1 generator. You already have 5 pieces, and you need 10 more to buy the 5 obsidian for your egg. 5 x 10 = 50 seconds. 50 seconds. The defender has to wait FIFTY SECONDS before they can buy the obsidian they need. You're telling me it takes you more than fifty seconds to rush?
Then that's not rushing, that's called taking your time then whining when the enemy has obsidian.
Lets even look at tea party, the biggest map on tea party. Let's say it takes them 4 seconds to reach the generator, the level 2 gold generator gives 7 gold upfront, then it'll take them 3.5 seconds for each gold piece, since they need 8 more pieces, it will take 28 seconds (8 x 3.5 = 28) By the time they reach the shop keeper it would have been 36 seconds. 36 seconds for them to be able to buy 5 obby. I know for a fact you can buy blocks, speed bridge to your neighboring island in LESS than 36 seconds, so you can literally rush other people ON TEA PARTY.
One of the solutions you propose by changing the price of obsidian from 3 gold to 5, is that it encourages people to rush mid. So essentially what you're doing, is forcing people to play a certain playstyle. You're forcing people to rush mid, not everyone likes rushing, some people like to enjoy and take their time while playing egg wars.
You're also complaining how its unfair that people get to have a lot of obsidian on the egg, it takes 5.5 seconds with the 5Gold Pickaxe to break 1 obsidian.
This is no where near an issue, and shouldnt be treated like one. Yes Golden apples needed an increase in price because they were too easy to get(In my opinion they should be 2 gold, but thats a suggestion for another thread)
A 40 diamond pickaxe breaks an obsidian in a second, so even if they put a lot of obsidian on the egg, it doesn't matter since it'll take you a few seconds to reach the egg.
You don't know what you're talking about, you only want to make the game easier for yourself without thinking about others.
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Onik what you want changed is literally going to ruin eggwars. Also don't call me baby like wtf
This idea is so terrible I can't get over it. One thing I've learned is you can't fix stupid and guess what ur stupid
This idea is so terrible I can't get over it. One thing I've learned is you can't fix stupid and guess what ur stupid
Posting rules is also off topic, just FYI.
If you want helper so bad, just apply. It's literally so moronic and naive to post rules on a post about item changes. I would be more inclined to justify it if you actually contributed prior to your statement, but you didn't, so instead you mindlessly come on here and just echo rules.
This thread is about obsidian prices changing, Marieke. If you want to talk about rules, make an off topic thread somewhere else, instead of not adding to the discussion and posting rules.
Thanks.
I stated the rules as I get really really tired of ya’ll calling everyone out for wanting helper, just because they disagree with you. But hey, if we’re going to make random claims; I think you’re blind because you really missed my argument as to why I won’t get helper.
you and your friends are being incredibly toxic and annoying and that’s making the case worse for you guys. You guys barely make any good arguments and you don’t reply with some good reasoning to arguments other people make. This shows that you guys aren’t capable of discussing things seriously and are just here for calling out names.
PS: I voted no because I think the obsidian price is balanced right now.
Mr. Marieke, I of course saw your forum post, however I quickly ignored it, because I know being banned from helper submissions would never deter a masculine gentleman such as yourself!
Also, who is 'you guys'? You don't know if I know these people. Silly goose!
