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_The13thDoctor_

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Original: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/auto-vote.216194/

Basically, you can pre-select in your setting what you want to always vote. You can change it either via settings or even before the game starts if you have time. I see this as being effective as it saves even more time before a game especially for people who like to shake it up a bit. So you can literally change your vote during voting if you decide you don't want to vote what you have selected so there is no way you can get messed up unless you're not paying attention. What do you think?

Another side suggestion as similar to the ability to select what maps you can duel on in duels, a similar thing can be added where on certain maps certain conditions apply when you select your auto-vote. (This is only a side idea, don't let this affect your ultimate voting decision)
 
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This is very good suggestion, I really want to see it added to Cube, since we can't vote when we are in cages anymore (eggwars), so sometimes I forget to vote, it is the same with choosing kits, before it was every time you join you need to select your kit, but they changed it automatically, I'd love to see it in votes too, very good idea :)
 
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I definitely see a use for this
Just to add to that; Along with the option in the settings, after when you vote for a map it could ask you if you want to keep this as your regular map.
This would be very useful for a lot of people. Good suggestion, +1 :)
 
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Just make one big thread?? You posted 4 different v2.0/v3.0 suggestions in less then 15 minutes.. tf?
 
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Wauw, that would be awesome to add in CubeCraft, if the game starts if you joined you had nothing to vote and you don't wanna have those options for the game. I'd like to see that in-game and for a change will it be very good too! Good suggestion! +1 :), I voted Yes! :)
 

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Just make one big thread?? You posted 4 different v2.0/v3.0 suggestions in less then 15 minutes.. tf?
Yea well, big threads just gain less attention because they're a way bigger read... Far from everyone is prepared to read as much. Although I find multiple threads suggesting similar things annoying too, it is a more efficient way to communicate your idea's to the community so nohardfeelings.

As for the suggestion itself, although it would be very convenient, I think it'd also push the minigames into one meta even further (mainly talking about eggwars right now), playing the same gamerules over, and over and over again gets boring eventually. Having the voting automated would enlarge the occurance of some gamerules even more than they already are. Not all players see this as a problem, but as you, by now, might know from me... I'm pretty opposed to it. Voted no, not because of the suggestion itself, which seems pretty good to me, but because of its consequences.
 
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I have no opinion, voting cost 2 seconds but I'm lazy either :D
Selecting a kit also takes 2 seconds and we even have an automatic system for that ;)

I don't agree with this personally. I sometimes choose OP, sometimes Normal, sometimes Day Time etc. I would like this if the setting for this would become toggleable. I am a player who plays various modes in Skywars (taking Skywars as an example for this right now).
 
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Selecting a kit also takes 2 seconds and we even have an automatic system for that ;)

I don't agree with this personally. I sometimes choose OP, sometimes Normal, sometimes Day Time etc. I would like this if the setting for this would become toggleable. I am a player who plays various modes in Skywars (taking Skywars as an example for this right now).

Yea well, big threads just gain less attention because they're a way bigger read... Far from everyone is prepared to read as much. Although I find multiple threads suggesting similar things annoying too, it is a more efficient way to communicate your idea's to the community so nohardfeelings.

As for the suggestion itself, although it would be very convenient, I think it'd also push the minigames into one meta even further (mainly talking about eggwars right now), playing the same gamerules over, and over and over again gets boring eventually. Having the voting automated would enlarge the occurance of some gamerules even more than they already are. Not all players see this as a problem, but as you, by now, might know from me... I'm pretty opposed to it. Voted no, not because of the suggestion itself, which seems pretty good to me, but because of its consequences.

Please make sure you read through my whole thread before commenting .:P I mentioned a way to combat the auto voting issue. For wanting to change your vote setting you can do it before the game starts or in the main lobby. Furthermore you will be aloud to vote / change your vote at any time. Also how does this force a meta? People are going to vote anyway and this actually helps you vote quicker for what you want. Why buy a rank when you can't vote all the time because you happen to join a starting game? Sorry but that does not make sense to me.

Not trying to be harsh. :)
 
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Selecting a kit also takes 2 seconds and we even have an automatic system for that ;)

I don't agree with this personally. I sometimes choose OP, sometimes Normal, sometimes Day Time etc. I would like this if the setting for this would become toggleable. I am a player who plays various modes in Skywars (taking Skywars as an example for this right now).
There already is a ''auto'' kit system :p
 

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Please make sure you read through my whole thread before commenting .:p I mentioned a way to combat the auto voting issue. For wanting to change your vote setting you can do it before the game starts or in the main lobby. Furthermore you will be aloud to vote / change your vote at any time. Also how does this force a meta? People are going to vote anyway and this actually helps you vote quicker for what you want. Why buy a rank when you can't vote all the time because you happen to join a starting game? Sorry but that does not make sense to me.
I did read the whole thing, thing is, when something becomes automated, people start to bother less if the outcome is precisely what they want, simply because there'd be an effort needed to change it. Extreme example: look at self driving cars, they, not at all, drive in a perfect manner yet. They're pretty slow on decisionmaking compared to what a human would do, yet still, people love driving autonomous just because they need to do less manually.

The "overpowered" meta in Eggwars will become éven more dominant and that is bad.
 

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Please make sure you read through my whole thread before commenting .:p I mentioned a way to combat the auto voting issue. For wanting to change your vote setting you can do it before the game starts or in the main lobby. Furthermore you will be aloud to vote / change your vote at any time. Also how does this force a meta? People are going to vote anyway and this actually helps you vote quicker for what you want. Why buy a rank when you can't vote all the time because you happen to join a starting game? Sorry but that does not make sense to me.

Not trying to be harsh. :)
I actually did read your thread and you maybe misunderstood. I meant an auto vote toggleable option so you can turn it off and on, not so you can change your votes in the lobby. I mean that's a fine solution but I always vote in-game and like I also said, I like playing a variety of Skywars gamemodes.

The suggestion itself is fine but I most likely won't really use it because of my reasons IU just mentioned. ^^

There already is a ''auto'' kit system :p
I know, that's what I said. ''And we even have an automatic system for that ;)''.
Yeah, didnt noticed that :D
That's fine, now you do :]
 

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I did read the whole thing, thing is, when something becomes automated, people start to bother less if the outcome is precisely what they want, simply because there'd be an effort needed to change it. Extreme example: look at self driving cars, they, not at all, drive in a perfect manner yet. They're pretty slow on decisionmaking compared to what a human would do, yet still, people love driving autonomous just because they need to do less manually.

The "overpowered" meta in Eggwars will become éven more dominant and that is bad.

Again, it's super easy to change but this actually changes less then you think. Your going to vote for it anyway, why not make it easier.

Also OP Egg Wars is amazing, I can't imagine not playing it and everyone loves it. How would this be a bad thing?
 

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Again, it's super easy to change but this actually changes less then you think. Your going to vote for it anyway, why not make it easier.
I've explained that I do agree with this, but also why I don't in this particular context, I am not going to repeat myself but if you want more explanation you can always dm me. Ill conclude it one final time for you: Automisation results in people being less active, even when the automated results don't fully meet their standards. Players generally prefer Overpowered right now, but I (and many others) like to switch things up every now and then... This is crucial for making eggwars games less repetitive.

Just gonna: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/eggwars-suggestions-improvement.225604/#post-1091264
In short: as long as there are other gamerules to choose from, there will be players that like gamerules different than the one generally preferred, as long as the gamerules are pretty good (cough* cough* double and triple health cough*). From a server-perspective, you want your games to be attractive to all players, including those that prefer gamerules different than the ones usually selected.
Add to this that the current most preferred gamerule is one that needs donators to be played with, and you get a game where lots of unranked players are unsatisfied with their games and their eggwars experience as a whole, resulting in them leaving. Which then results in players donating less because their preferred gamerule will be selected 80% anyways.
 
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