Why is Drag Clicking not banned?

[qMystqc]

Drag clicking gives an unfair advantage because it lets some players reach crazy high CPS that just isn’t possible with normal clicking. In games like PvP, that can mean winning fights not because you're better, but just because you're clicking faster. They’ve already banned using tape to help with drag clicking, but let’s be real—people still use it, and some even use macros to fake high CPS. So if people are just going to keep finding ways around the rules, they might as well ban drag clicking altogether. I mean, I can drag click too, but I get why it feels unfair for people who don’t or can’t—it just makes the game less balanced for everyone

 

[uchiha.x01]

“Drag clicking gives an unfair advantage because it lets some players reach crazy high CPS that just isn’t possible with normal clicking.”

True but it doesnt automatically make the player 1000X better. Game might go longer but you can defo still fight anyone who drags.

“In games like PvP, that can mean winning fights not because you're better, but just because you're clicking faster.”

Not necessary true. Yes you can clutch easier and therefore you have an advantage but is it always the case? PVP in CC is not just clicking, its also about movement and what strat to use. If we look at eggwars for example, you have to think and decide what items you should buy. Drag can be easily countered

Also, there are players who single click and double click and beat people who do 300 cps lmaooo. Then it means it is beatable right? If they can beat them why cant you?

“They’ve already banned using tape to help with drag clicking, but people still do it—and some even use macros to fake high CPS.”

NGL they should allow macro. ATP everyone is prolly cheating under the table. Make it easier for the mods who everyday have to see so many reports of someone Macroing. To put ease on the moderators, I believe that Cubecraft should allow macro 100% make it super halal.

“So if people are just going to keep finding ways around the rules, they might as well ban drag clicking altogether.”

People will still cheat regardless. It is no fun when everyone is easily avoidable and relying on just trading hits. Esp for people who play for hours. Your fingers will break down and its not healthy at all.

Instead of banning DRAG, they should allow macro and let the moderators focus on actual hacks.

“I can drag click too, but I get why it feels unfair for people who don’t or can’t—it just makes the game less balanced for everyone.”

You cannot use appeal to emotion to strengthen your point. People use ladders, bows, OR tnt. It could be that people S tap when doing PVP or do crits. Should we ban those too skills also?

PC players who single click or butterfly can defo beat draggers or macroers. Even if the person is macroing 300 cps. It is beatable.

No matter what happens it will be generally be unfair.

Someone who is having a 120 fps is defo gunna be better than 30 fps player

Or 300 ping vs 80 ping.

There is no way you can draw an objective line. Cubecraft should focus on the moderators being to able to ban the actual hacks. People who use anti kb or other cheats under the table. And to allow macro

 

[Endermanxbox479]

Drag clicking does actually give you an advantage over other players. However, with the current CPS cap on the left button, you can reach the same CPS with butterfly click.
I have both Bloody A70 and Roccat Kone Pro, which are considered the best mice for drag clicking. I still wasn't able to replicate the clutches of those EggWars "drag clickers" though. In my opinion, the issue is not in people abusing drag click, but rather most of them using autoclickers/boosters. Cubecraft should add a CPS cap of ~20-25 CPS on the right button and implement the same kicking system as it was done with the left click. After all if you're good enough you can beat drag clicker even with just single click.

 

[uchiha.x01]

Drag clicking does actually give you an advantage over other players. However, with the current CPS cap on the left button, you can reach the same CPS with butterfly click.
I have both Bloody A70 and Roccat Kone Pro, which are considered the best mice for drag clicking. I still wasn't able to replicate the clutches of those EggWars "drag clickers" though. In my opinion, the issue is not in people abusing drag click, but rather most of them using autoclickers/boosters. Cubecraft should add a CPS cap of ~20-25 CPS on the right button and implement the same kicking system as it was done with the left click. After all if you're good enough you can beat drag clicker even with just singhow

I always fight macroers with 300 cps. tbh they are easy to beat. Real draggers are just below the macroers in ranking. They are good but its not like I am having a difficulty. The only problem is when the marco pro ppl start using anti kb or reach. Marco is not an issue at all. Its them using macro and under the table it is those other diabolical cheats.

 

[uchiha.x01]

Drag clicking does actually give you an advantage over other players. However, with the current CPS cap on the left button, you can reach the same CPS with butterfly click.
I have both Bloody A70 and Roccat Kone Pro, which are considered the best mice for drag clicking. I still wasn't able to replicate the clutches of those EggWars "drag clickers" though. In my opinion, the issue is not in people abusing drag click, but rather most of them using autoclickers/boosters. Cubecraft should add a CPS cap of ~20-25 CPS on the right button and implement the same kicking system as it was done with the left click. After all if you're good enough you can beat drag clicker even with just single click.

I still believe 100% to allow macro

 

[TheMrSpacee]

Drag clicking gives an unfair advantage because it lets some players reach crazy high CPS that just isn’t possible with normal clicking.

Using same logic you can say that "Sprint gives you unfair advantage because it let you move faster than players who don't use it". Ridiculous.

In games like PvP, that can mean winning fights not because you're better, but just because you're clicking faster.

Clicking faster means better skill.

They’ve already banned using tape to help with drag clicking, but let’s be real—people still use it, and some even use macros to fake high CPS. So if people are just going to keep finding ways around the rules, they might as well ban drag clicking altogether.

Yeah, it is a huge problem of CubeCraft (especially macros). However it is very controversial point for drag ban that сouse debate for years. Personally I don't like the way moderation team reviewing click-related reports, so it is strong point for drag click ban in my opinion. But it can be solved by changes in moderation team (that may result false bans). So it is really controversial point and I think that so unpopular decision is not one Cube should make.

I mean, I can drag click too, but I get why it feels unfair for people who don’t or can’t—it just makes the game less balanced for everyone

Player with Keyboard and mouse that normal click and player with keyboard and mouse that drag click against touch player would be on pretty same level of disbalance.

“Drag clicking gives an unfair advantage because it lets some players reach crazy high CPS that just isn’t possible with normal clicking.”

True but it doesnt automatically make the player 1000X better. Game might go longer but you can defo still fight anyone who drags.

(problem of advantage of KbM under touch player is still a lot more serious than drag players having more CPS, as I said above "Player with Keyboard and mouse that normal click and player with keyboard and mouse that drag click against touch player would be on pretty same level of disbalance.")

“In games like PvP, that can mean winning fights not because you're better, but just because you're clicking faster.”

Not necessary true. Yes you can clutch easier and therefore you have an advantage but is it always the case? PVP in CC is not just clicking, its also about movement and what strat to use. If we look at eggwars for example, you have to think and decide what items you should buy. Drag can be easily countered

(Nether armor and sword of guy who mixed up their base with mid can be a strong argument against drag clicker with leather armor and wooden pick who killed all map before they was able to notice it)

Also, there are players who single click and double click and beat people who do 300 cps lmaooo. Then it means it is beatable right? If they can beat them why cant you?

Everyone can beat 300 CPS player if somebody can't set adequate CPS amount in autoclicker than they diffidently can't aim.

“They’ve already banned using tape to help with drag clicking, but people still do it—and some even use macros to fake high CPS.”

NGL they should allow macro. ATP everyone is prolly cheating under the table. Make it easier for the mods who everyday have to see so many reports of someone Macroing. To put ease on the moderators, I believe that Cubecraft should allow macro 100% make it super halal.

Are you serious or visited same party as @CeruleanPrism81 last night? Allowing modification that would provide unfair advantage is ridiculous. Problems in moderation is not the reason to remove rules.

“So if people are just going to keep finding ways around the rules, they might as well ban drag clicking altogether.”

People will still cheat regardless. It is no fun when everyone is easily avoidable and relying on just trading hits. Esp for people who play for hours. Your fingers will break down and its not healthy at all.

Instead of banning DRAG, they should allow macro and let the moderators focus on actual hacks.

Cube better to ban something controversial than allow something unfair. Btw use of illegal modifications (cheats) is disallowed under XBOX COMMUNITY STANDARDS.

“I can drag click too, but I get why it feels unfair for people who don’t or can’t—it just makes the game less balanced for everyone.”

You cannot use appeal to emotion to strengthen your point. People use ladders, bows, OR tnt. It could be that people S tap when doing PVP or do crits. Should we ban those too skills also?

PC players who single click or butterfly can defo beat draggers or macroers. Even if the person is macroing 300 cps. It is beatable.

No matter what happens it will be generally be unfair.

Someone who is having a 120 fps is defo gunna be better than 30 fps player

Or 300 ping vs 80 ping.

(CubeCraft is not a completion, it is a place where you can spend free time for fun. So 100% equal conditions is not a thing here)

There is no way you can draw an objective line. Cubecraft should focus on the moderators being to able to ban the actual hacks. People who use anti kb or other cheats under the table. And to allow macro

It's better to ban drag, than allow macro. Macro is an actual hack.

Drag clicking does actually give you an advantage over other players. However, with the current CPS cap on the left button, you can reach the same CPS with butterfly click.
I have both Bloody A70 and Roccat Kone Pro, which are considered the best mice for drag clicking. I still wasn't able to replicate the clutches of those EggWars "drag clickers" though. In my opinion, the issue is not in people abusing drag click, but rather most of them using autoclickers/boosters. Cubecraft should add a CPS cap of ~20-25 CPS on the right button and implement the same kicking system as it was done with the left click. After all if you're good enough you can beat drag clicker even with just single click.

It is solution Cube deffintly should try.

arco is not an issue at all.

Macro is realy huge issue and the reason player wanting drag click ban more and more.

 

[Herrrooo]

Drag clicking gives an unfair advantage because it lets some players reach crazy high CPS that just isn’t possible with normal clicking. In games like PvP, that can mean winning fights not because you're better, but just because you're clicking faster. They’ve already banned using tape to help with drag clicking, but let’s be real—people still use it, and some even use macros to fake high CPS. So if people are just going to keep finding ways around the rules, they might as well ban drag clicking altogether. I mean, I can drag click too, but I get why it feels unfair for people who don’t or can’t—it just makes the game less balanced for everyone

I agree actually. I know some would say that it doesn’t give you an actual advantage outside of mainly PvP games, but actually it does so massively. Just remind yourself of how annoying it is when someone is (close to) impossible to void knock in games like Eggwars and Skywars. And to conclude, not every mouse is fit to perform a move like dragclicking (nor butterfly clicking). In my opinion, it gives an unfair advantage and ultimately negatively affects the quality of the overal game.

 

[uchiha.x01]

Are you serious or visited same party as @CeruleanPrism81 last night? Allowing modification that would provide unfair advantage is ridiculous. Problems in moderation is not the reason to remove rules.

No need for ad hominem, but my point still stands. People in the OG Season 1 use to auto and nowadays its just macro or scafold with reach, antikb and etc.
BUT as you said that its against XBOX community standards then I will take my opinion back.

Still fighting against macroers is fun and makes the game long. Esp in eggwars

 

[CeruleanPrism81]

Using same logic you can say that "Sprint gives you unfair advantage because it let you move faster than players who don't use it". Ridiculous.

Clicking faster means better skill.

Yeah, it is a huge problem of CubeCraft (especially macros). However it is very controversial point for drag ban that сouse debate for years. Personally I don't like the way moderation team reviewing click-related reports, so it is strong point for drag click ban in my opinion. But it can be solved by changes in moderation team (that may result false bans). So it is really controversial point and I think that so unpopular decision is not one Cube should make.

Player with Keyboard and mouse that normal click and player with keyboard and mouse that drag click against touch player would be on pretty same level of disbalance.

(problem of advantage of KbM under touch player is still a lot more serious than drag players having more CPS, as I said above "Player with Keyboard and mouse that normal click and player with keyboard and mouse that drag click against touch player would be on pretty same level of disbalance.")

(Nether armor and sword of guy who mixed up their base with mid can be a strong argument against drag clicker with leather armor and wooden pick who killed all map before they was able to notice it)

Everyone can beat 300 CPS player if somebody can't set adequate CPS amount in autoclicker than they diffidently can't aim.

Are you serious or visited same party as @CeruleanPrism81 last night? Allowing modification that would provide unfair advantage is ridiculous. Problems in moderation is not the reason to remove rules.

Cube better to ban something controversial than allow something unfair. Btw use of illegal modifications (cheats) is disallowed under XBOX COMMUNITY STANDARDS.

(CubeCraft is not a completion, it is a place where you can spend free time for fun. So 100% equal conditions is not a thing here)

It's better to ban drag, than allow macro. Macro is an actual hack.

It is solution Cube deffintly should try.

Macro is realy huge issue and the reason player wanting drag click ban more and more.

I see how the main hypocrite here has changed his shoes 20 times here, Of all people, it's not you who should talk about the rules. "Clicking faster means better skill." But weren't you the one who tried to ban innocent players for this? " (CubeCraft is not a completion, it is a place where you can spend free time for fun. So 100% equal conditions is not a thing here)" What? Aren't you the person who writes nonsense under every post of mine? accuses me of doxxing, tried to ban me via Faking reports, you write nonsense every time you see me, weirdo Making drama and ruining everyone's mood, And then you say "CubeCraft is not a completion, it is a place where you can spend free time for fun" That was so hypocritical right now dude, you try to seem right and fair but these things are so far from you, And stop talking about me I have never used cheats, dude you will never be able to ban me, every admin here knows that I am the most legitimate person, U as person who doesn't participate in anything doesn't know how to play, says something about things he's never tried to do, and continues to pretend to be smart, Understand that your opinion is not needed by anyone, Anyone can say obvious things in order to seem right, But it is you who will then try to falsify reports, Make dramas, Argue, And say the opposite, As always, in one word - Hypocrite

 

[tacoman222xx]

Ah I thought Ceru and Spacee had stopped this fight, nevermind then. Drag is alright but the main problem i.m.o. is autoclciking or macroing, and saying it's drag. Maybe CC needs to implement something that can maybe plot all someone's clicks on a graph, so it's easy to see a pattern (auto would be even spaces, drag irregular). Idk if that's possible though.

 

[rasmus123]

Drag is indistinguishable from autoclicker (or so they say), so CubeCraft needs to make a decision. Allow autoclicker or ban dragclick. Over night, the tryhards are suddenly world class in drag clicking, and they are stalling games by speedbuilding. If they wear diamond gear, you can't use blast balls on them. I think we all know they are using autoclicker, and it's hurting honest players who prefer not to cheat.

Is dragclick really a skill, if you need to buy a special mouse to do it? And put tape, wax etc on the mouse? Is CubeCraft staff going to inspect if I use invisible wax on my fingers every game? I don't mind new technology, but it's ridiculous that I have to buy all this gear to have a fighting chance in 5% of eggwar games against autoclickers. And it's always obnoxious players greeting you with "gg ez" and talking about onlyfans in chat.

 

[tacoman222xx]

gg ez" and talking about onlyfans in chat.

Lol never seen that before but I'm sure people say things like it. Mostly the hacking alts are extremely toxic because they know they'll get banned and don't care.

 

[uchiha.x01]

Ah I thought Ceru and Spacee had stopped this fight, nevermind then. Drag is alright but the main problem i.m.o. is autoclciking or macroing, and saying it's drag. Maybe CC needs to implement something that can maybe plot all someone's clicks on a graph, so it's easy to see a pattern (auto would be even spaces, drag irregular). Idk if that's possible though.

yea but there is a new cheat config where it allows you to have irregularities in ur macro. I remember some guy during my 300th-ish episodes of stream was telling me about it.
Basicallly, it will resemble a true "drag". All he doing is just holding right click lmaoooooooo

 

[tacoman222xx]

yea but there is a new cheat config where it allows you to have irregularities in ur macro. I remember some guy during my 300th-ish episodes of stream was telling me about it.
Basicallly, it will resemble a true "drag". All he doing is just holding right click lmaoooooooo

Oh dam that's not good, is it like "random offset" in an autoclicker? That will make it very hard to recognize :(

 

[BicolourSine41 🇺🇦]

Drag clicking in pvp doesnt give an advantage, and with block placing butterfly is kinda similar. Also tape isnt allowed.

If you get banned for ac while you say you are using drag, you have to show a video of you drag clicking that cps.

 

[CeruleanPrism81]

Drag clicking in pvp doesnt give an advantage, and with block placing butterfly is kinda similar. Also tape isnt allowed.

If you get banned for ac while you say you are using drag, you have to show a video of you drag clicking that cps.

Here! The problem with most drag clickers is that they can't show how they drag click, especially making clutches, that's why, I don't trust many of them so much, and I call them cheaters, no problem if you can play with drag at that level, but show at least 1 hand video of you making these clutches, especially if you are constantly being reported, I don't see a problem, since they have such videos that they show when appealing, but again they either use duct tape or some other modifications of their mouse that cannot be detected, and it boosts your CPS a lot, and it's a pity that to unban you just need to show how you drag click, even if you barely do it, I think you need to force the player to go to some server and make these clutches, because basically mods ban such people for impossible clutches, So repeat it on camera, After all, this server where players compete with each other.