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So, the Discord layout got refreshed lately and honestly - it looks really good. However there is a big issue with this. While it might look nice, the actual content has not kept up. There are a lot of issues I want to address (and will address in later threads) but in this thread I want to address #rules-and-faq.

In this channel are the baseline rules that are to be followed in the entire of the server. However, they are extremely unclear, inconsistent with https://cubecraft.net/rules and not user friendly. To make them far better, I have a few suggestions that should help the channel become a lot clearer:

1 - Increase the clarity of the rules themselves. Currently, the rules are extremely vague and can sometimes be considered misleading as to what is usually punished for. Some examples include the rule "No malicious targeted language or actions towards other induviduals or group" or "there are minors using this Discord, so please avoid vulgar, obscene, or otherwise questionable language" which including any swearing, masking of swearing or anything rude whatsoever, but not just generic insults. A lot of people who spend lots of time on the internet will assume that this means no targeted hateful swearing or extreme swearing or something like that and a lot of children will assume that it covers generic insults, when in reality any form of swearing is not allowed. Another example is the "Use channels for their designated purposes" which is used to punish people for speaking the wrong language in the language specific channels as well as posting off topic images in any channel other than media, the rule being extremely vague. There are also rules for things like asking to buy accounts, mass tagging, tagging devs and admins for low level issues, etc that aren't 100% covered in any other rule that should be as they are punished for. Basically - the rules need to be clarified and properly explained, like they are on the forums

2 - Make them much more user friendly to read. Currently, the rules are just a big list block of text and honestly, most children won't be bothered to read them. A good way of encouraging people to read the rules is to make them easier and friendlier to read. Just look at these other Discord servers rules channels and see how friendly they are, especially compared to Cube's block of text.
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3 - Ensure consistency with the forums rules. As it stands, the Discord rules listed on the forums are vastly different from the rules listed on the Discord server itself. It would be much more clear and fair if these rules are the same across both platforms, especially the phrase "All server chat rules are enforced on the Discord". This would make it a lot more clear and consistent, reducing the chance of a confusion where someone gets punished for something not against one rule set etc.

4 - Release publicly the punishment tracks for all the different rules on Discord. If you ask staff, you can get wildly different answers for punishment tracks for different rules. Some people would ban for breaking 2-3 of any rule, some wouldn't ban for spamming discord adverts in every channel and swearing loads. It doesn't help that there are sometimes issues with recording punishments as well. Publishing the proper punishment tracks would allow staff and players to understand a lot better as to who should be punished when, and would much more easily allow players to challenge staff for punishing too early/heavily or lightly/late.

TL;DR - Make the rules much easier and nicer to understand.

And before all of these suggestions are rejected by staff - I don't care if you don't implement all of them because I suggested them as an excuse. Not implementing any of these just because you don't want to do all of them is a horrible excuse.
 

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we need pollllllllllllllllll

Also I completely agree, also clarity of why your banned and when you would be unbanned would be great too for clarity reasons
Sadly this wouldn't really work unless they either implemented a system on the appeals/reports site linking it to Discord or if they add a public discord bot which for some reason they seem adamant to not do. Maybe this is something they could with Passport when it comes out, but not right now.
And no, I'm not adding a poll so that if people disagree then they can actually tell me why.
 
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Hey! Thanks for taking the time to create this suggestion.
I think this would be an amazing addition and would make the Discord server look even better 😜

Have a nice day! :heart:
 
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Sadly this wouldn't really work unless they either implemented a system on the appeals/reports site linking it to Discord or if they add a public discord bot which for some reason they seem adamant to not do. Maybe this is something they could with Passport when it comes out, but not right now.
And no, I'm not adding a poll so that if people disagree then they can actually tell me why.
honestly, i think that they should link the discord and forums account.
 

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1 - I completely agree with this. Rules in general should get a revamp imo (making a list of rules that apply all over the network and then platform specific rules), though that’s for another discussion.

2 - Rather on the border. I mean, yes we could improve the readability of the rules but I’d rather just have a link to rules page so the rules always are uptodate.

3 - I partially covered this in 1.

4 - We do have some punishment tracks which currently are limited to staff only, will ask around about this.

tldr - escalated
 

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I really like these ideas, even as a staff member on my first day I was confused by the discord rules/punishments. We have a lot of discord punishments and I think this could be solved by clarifying our rules more. +1
 
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Also define inappropriate media as I have been banned twice for it
• There are minors using this Discord, so please avoid vulgar, obscene, or otherwise questionable language and media.

Fairly clear. Also, please do not necropost (Replying on threads which haven't been replied to in 3+ weeks) ~ this is not allowed.
 
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