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Please Edit "OP Archer" and "No Debuff" Kits

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Infinity323, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. Infinity323

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    Hey guys, I've been playing on the 1.8 PvP queue, and I've gotten really tired of the op archer and no debuff kits. Why? Mainly since you only get 5 minutes to defeat your opponent, and these kits really drag out the game, especially with players who can survive for a long time.

    OP Archer has Prot II Unbreak II diamond armor. Also has Power III Unbreak III Punch I bow, 4 speed potions, and a golden apple. It doesn't at first sound too bad, but killing with this kit can be a pain, especially with maps that have lots of obstacles in the way, giving less-experienced archers opportunity to hide and regen (especially with no hunger in the kit). I tested the damage of the bow, and it deals an average about 1 heart per fully-charged shot (with armor on). So, with this kit, you'll really have to land a constant stream of charged arrows to kill someone. And if the opponent gets low enough, they'll just use the apple to regenerate and run away, dragging out the match.

    No Debuff has the same diamond armor, a Sharp III Unbreak III diamond sword, 3 speed potions, 64 steak, 16 ender pearls, and the rest of the inventory is FILLED with health potions. This allows good players to constantly heal themselves up for as long as they want (30 health potions and 64 steak), and the huge amount of ender pearls also help them in doing so. This also drags out the match.

    Here is what I'm suggesting:

    OP Archer should either have weaker armor (non-enchanted diamond armor, enchanted iron armor, or a mix, wouldn't be "op" anymore though) or a stronger bow (Power V). Why? This will allow arrows to do more damage to a player, so the need to have a near-perfect stream of arrows wouldn't be necessary. Also, matches would be much shorter and the chance of the match ending in a draw would be decreased.

    No Debuff should seriously reduce the amount of health potions, steak, and ender pearls in the inventory. Seriously, 30 health potions? Here's what one can do: Engage the opponent in combat, ender pearl away, steak regen, health potion heal. And they'll literally have like 9 hearts before you catch up to them. My suggestion is you reduce the amount of health potions to 6, the amount of ender pearls to 4, and steak to 8. This will: 1. Force the players to use their resources wisely, especially the ender pearls. 2. Potentially decrease the time of the match.

    Thank you for reading and I hope you consider this!
     
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    You could always buy iron rank and select the type of duel. But I do agree OP Archer is a useless kit.
     
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    True. I'm poor however ;-;
     
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    It's a great kit to practice bow, can't deny that. It's an instant kill however if you manage to hit someone and send them flying off a cliff if players can fall out of the map.
     
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    I've never had an actual op archer match go on for over 3 minutes.. Just bowspam them in a corner..
     
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    OP Archer is pretty long and boring IMO I do agree that they should remove it at least from 1.8 ... Some people may like it in OP mode...
     
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    I think that instead of the pearl count reduced to 4, there could just be a cool-down of 20 seconds to prevent people from constantly pearling away from you (I've had this problem WAY too many times). Although then again, reducing the pearl count to 4 seems like a more simple method.

    But yes I agree with this, I duel a lot of people everyday and I stopped playing these kits a long time ago because they just took forever, especially when I'm playing against someone who is good or a camper that continuously pearls away and camps on the walls of some maps.
     
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    True, easier said than done though
     
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    Majority of maps don't support that heh.
     
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    Its pretty easy if you're decent at bow
     
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    I would also bow spam if it weren't for the amount of players getting angry and calling me a noob/scrub every time I did it. From where I come from it's frowned upon.
     
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    It's cubecraft, you'll get called a noob/scrub whatever you do..
     
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    Lol, true.
     
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    But anyways what else do you guys think about my suggested edits to the no debuff kit?
     
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    Already said my part ;) I think it okay really...
     
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    Only thing I'd want to be added to nodebuff is some barrier blocks preventing you from pearling into the walls and a barrier block roof. Op archer is fine IMO, doesnt take too long if you can somewhat aim with a bow (AKA not 5000 DPI)