Bedrock CubeCraft Anti-Cheat Needs Improvement

[Mintboyx]

Hello CubeCraft Team,

I wanted to share some feedback regarding the current state of the anti-cheat.

Cheating has become a noticeable issue, and many players are experiencing it, not just me. In particular, I have encountered or seen players using cheats such as Fly, KillAura, Anti-KB, AirJump, and other movement/combat cheats.

This seems to be especially problematic for VIPs, as hackers often target them specifically to farm kills. This has personally caused me to lose many of my streaks, and it can also negatively affect our stats and K/D.

I have one video showing an example of this:

Video evidence: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yG3kUcV6Gm8_QhJq8Rf7NHs8hIdabJKH/view?usp=drive_link

I understand that detecting every type of cheat can be difficult, but I would really appreciate it if the CubeCraft team could take a closer look at the current anti-cheat and improve its detection, especially for these types of cheats.

Hopefully, the anti-cheat can become more reliable and consistent so these players are detected and dealt with before they can repeatedly ruin other players' games and affect their stats.

Thank you to the CubeCraft team for your continued work on improving the server and keeping it fair for everyone.

 

[xsmistryx]

Hello CubeCraft Team,

I wanted to share some feedback regarding the current state of the anti-cheat.

Cheating has become a noticeable issue, and many players are experiencing it, not just me. In particular, I have encountered or seen players using cheats such as Fly, KillAura, Anti-KB, AirJump, and other movement/combat cheats.

This seems to be especially problematic for VIPs, as hackers often target them specifically to farm kills. This has personally caused me to lose many of my streaks, and it can also negatively affect our stats and K/D.

I have one video showing an example of this:

Video evidence: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yG3kUcV6Gm8_QhJq8Rf7NHs8hIdabJKH/view?usp=drive_link

I understand that detecting every type of cheat can be difficult, but I would really appreciate it if the CubeCraft team could take a closer look at the current anti-cheat and improve its detection, especially for these types of cheats.

Hopefully, the anti-cheat can become more reliable and consistent so these players are detected and dealt with before they can repeatedly ruin other players' games and affect their stats.

Thank you to the CubeCraft team for your continued work on improving the server and keeping it fair for everyone.

I really agree with you as i also made a thread to take actions against draggers. i have a recent example of 2 players cheating

I want these people banned and i will make a report soon against them.

 

[Rabidsyllab]

True but AI. Not even that bad apart from FFA. Don't use AI, kinda lame
@Loskol

 

[Rabidsyllab]

I really agree with you as i also made a thread to take actions against draggers. i have a recent example of 2 players cheating

I want these people banned and i will make a report soon against them.

Question. How are these people cheating? I can't see anything obvious. Also, dragging has already had action taken on it with the ban on drag clicking. What more do you want?

 

[xsmistryx]

Question. How are these people cheating? I can't see anything obvious. Also, dragging has already had action taken on it with the ban on drag clicking. What more do you want?

Yes dragging is banned but players are not afraid of cubecraft to ban them because they know most of the players do not report against dragging. One of the motive to post this is to make people know that they should report against draggers on forums with enough evidence.
Also for how are they cheating, if u have seen the video then they are having amazing rech and cps. I am not not able to counter the even with 14 cps.
If they are sooo good at pvp then they should be pro enough to take the flag and reach their base in most efficient way but they were not able to play like legit pro players, they are not able to place blocks like normal players do, but they can do pvp very nicely.
They are either cheating with hacks or by dragging.

 

[imhungry1480]

look at this very cool obv cheat that sentinel didnt detect https://canva.link/hackercubecraft

 

[xsmistryx]

look at this very cool obv cheat that sentinel didnt detect https://canva.link/hackercubecraft

How adorable this one was, wow!
This is because players nowadays are using non detectable cheats.

 

[L1kii]

Hello CubeCraft Team,

I wanted to share some feedback regarding the current state of the anti-cheat.

Cheating has become a noticeable issue, and many players are experiencing it, not just me. In particular, I have encountered or seen players using cheats such as Fly, KillAura, Anti-KB, AirJump, and other movement/combat cheats.

This seems to be especially problematic for VIPs, as hackers often target them specifically to farm kills. This has personally caused me to lose many of my streaks, and it can also negatively affect our stats and K/D.

I have one video showing an example of this:

Video evidence: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yG3kUcV6Gm8_QhJq8Rf7NHs8hIdabJKH/view?usp=drive_link

I understand that detecting every type of cheat can be difficult, but I would really appreciate it if the CubeCraft team could take a closer look at the current anti-cheat and improve its detection, especially for these types of cheats.

Hopefully, the anti-cheat can become more reliable and consistent so these players are detected and dealt with before they can repeatedly ruin other players' games and affect their stats.

Thank you to the CubeCraft team for your continued work on improving the server and keeping it fair for everyone.

Hey, I completely agree with you. Cubecrafts anticheat was better few years ago. Would be great to see some improvement, atleast for obvious hacks like flying in game. I don’t think they ban dragging player for having high cps unless you report them. Would be nice if cubecraft set a cps limit and just kick them from server so we don’t have to fight them bec it’s very unfair. Can I ask which ign your ign is on cubecraft?

 

[Rabidsyllab]

Responding to a bunch of stuff so far that I think I need to respond to:

if u have seen the video then they are having amazing rech and cps. I am not not able to counter the even with 14 cps.

Ok, yes in the example I could see the players were a little funky and probably doing something wrong. Also, sometimes people could look like they are dragging but in reality be butterfly or jitter clicking, it is not always definite which makes it hard to moderate, but just because you can't counter at 14 cps doesn't always mean they are dragging.

I completely agree with you. Cubecrafts anticheat was better few years ago. Would be great to see some improvement, atleast for obvious hacks like flying in game. I don’t think they ban dragging player for having high cps unless you report them. Would be nice if cubecraft set a cps limit and just kick them from server so we don’t have to fight them bec it’s very unfair.

I don't remember the exact quote from Thunder but I'll put in my own words: 'We are trying to improve Sentinel. However this is difficult as mods are becoming more undetectable as we develop Sentinel' this puts them in an endless cycle. As for the CPS limit, it is already in place. If a player exceeds the 15cps limit multiple times then they will be kicked from the server.

Also, please @Mintboyx please put some sort of AI disclaimer, it is really obvious, even without quillbot.

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Edit: I found a few quotes from @Thunder that might help a bit

'If a player triggers sentinel, a ban may be applied. And, moderation team is already being alerted about suspicious players who are detected by Sentinel as you can see in the Behind the Cube #2.'

'Sentinel is already being developed to detect unusual behaviours/use of cheat modifications. However, cheat clients are also being developed to bypass these detections. This continues in a cycle.' Hope these may help a bit.

 

[xsmistryx]

Responding to a bunch of stuff so far that I think I need to respond to:

Ok, yes in the example I could see the players were a little funky and probably doing something wrong. Also, sometimes people could look like they are dragging but in reality be butterfly or jitter clicking, it is not always definite which makes it hard to moderate, but just because you can't counter at 14 cps doesn't always mean they are dragging.

I don't remember the exact quote from Thunder but I'll put in my own words: 'We are trying to improve Sentinel. However this is difficult as mods are becoming more undetectable as we develop Sentinel' this puts them in an endless cycle. As for the CPS limit, it is already in place. If a player exceeds the 15cps limit multiple times then they will be kicked from the server.

Also, please @Mintboyx please put some sort of AI disclaimer, it is really obvious, even without quillbot.

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Edit: I found a few quotes from @Thunder that might help a bit

'If a player triggers sentinel, a ban may be applied. And, moderation team is already being alerted about suspicious players who are detected by Sentinel as you can see in the Behind the Cube #2.'

'Sentinel is already being developed to detect unusual behaviours/use of cheat modifications. However, cheat clients are also being developed to bypass these detections. This continues in a cycle.' Hope these may help a bit.

Thats surely true that someone cant be cheating if i cant counter them but if someone could butterfly or jitter while pvping then that same person will try to capture the flag ASAP by placing blocks faster i.e. butterfly or jitter again for placing blocks, but in video we cant see them doing it to cap the flag.
Thats what made me doubt them.
For sentinel, i would say that drag is accurate and precise and it can be used by limiting the cps as per the server rules. So maybe sentinel is not able to detect if someone is violating their rules.