"Hacking": Small solution or legit play?

[Unfearful]

I'll explain it once, here it comes. We have around 38 staff members who can ban players and more then 200k players a day, got it? ;)

 

[betty's oldies]

I'll explain it once, here it comes. We have around 38 staff members who can ban players and more then 200k players a day, got it? ;)

Yes, but do you have enough food and time to ban the large portion of cheaters? If we assume that 1 in every 24 players is a hacker, then that is 4.2% of the playerbase. That's over 8k hackers on the server every day and staff can ban less than or around a hundred hackers per day. By the math above, there's more hackers coming on the server than you guys can clean up.

 

[Unfearful]

Yes, but do you have enough food and time to ban the large portion of cheaters? If we assume that 1 in every 24 players is a hacker, then that is 4.2% of the playerbase. That's over 8k hackers on the server every day and staff can ban less than or around a hundred hackers per day. By the math above, there's more hackers coming on the server than you guys can clean up.

We can do 20 reports in the time we have to spectate a hacker in game..

 

[betty's oldies]

We can do 20 reports in the time we have to spectate a hacker in game..

20 reports, each with about 1 minute of footage. Assuming the average is a minute per video and each report has 1 video, that's 60 hackers per hour. Mathematically, it is still under the amount of hackers joining or returning using alts.

I still got to say that the reports system is doing well -- much much better than the old system.

 

[Spyridon Agnew Dragon]

Ive seen the ghosting thing come up in another thread but it seems staff dont want to dealwith it as it is untraceable,


Also spectator mode is the best way to record hackers because you can go where they go easily
Its also not fair to those who want to see who wins especially if its a very close game

Also it wouldnt matter if staff had spectator mode or not they cant join games in progress

 

[AboodPlayz]

The answer is simple: hacks are actually part of the game. The flying hack many call it is actually in the game in the form of creative fly. Similarly, these "hacks" are actually legitimate features in another game, namely StarCraft 2. Since that game has legitimate features such as flying units, fast move speed, siege range, and fire-on-the-move, we can say one thing: the players are not hacking; rather, they are using legitimate features in MineCraft.

Hacks are NOT part of the game, what is part of the game is /gamemode X, /give etc
Hacks are modifications to the game that gives you an advantage against others (usually) or makes things unfair

tell me this Does A Player Hack In Singleplayer (not to test the hack) Or Do They Use Commands In The Game Itself (or use of command blocks)?
People use hacks in games because the in-game commands are unavailable to them but they still want to use it, servers prevent people from using minecraft commands for multiple reasons that may vary, To keep the game more entertaining, To prevent people from destroying the server, To test your skills etc, if you gave the power to everyone it wouldn't be fun would it? it would just be who memorizes the most commands and types fast, people could just spam /kill player, /tp player X X X, /gamemode 2 player, you get my point

Spectator mode is a feature Mineplex has for its games. Did a game start and you missed the chance to watch? Got a youtuber you want to watch in the game but you missed out? No problem! Spectator mode allows you to join the game and watch what you like in addition to catching hackers!

i don't want to be the person who uses the "Uncreative Idea" but i like, only problem is it will just give players an advantage through ghosting (as you stated)

What about spectator mode only for staff to prevent ghosting? Alternatively, only a limited number of spectators can join before a game starts. If a game has already started, spectators can join only when players die and leave.

I personally only like the only staff may use the command, because you could ask your friend to join the game and spectate for you from beginning to end

 

[Ping Ether]

How is this even relevant and why would a hacker be on the forums anyways?

@xTurtleOfficial

 

[betty's oldies]

tell me this Does A Player Hack In Singleplayer (not to test the hack) Or Do They Use Commands In The Game Itself (or use of command blocks)?

xTurtle has hacked in single player before. Early in the year, he made a short series called "Hacking in Single Player."

People use hacks in games because the in-game commands are unavailable to them but they still want to use it, servers prevent people from using minecraft commands for multiple reasons that may vary, To keep the game more entertaining, To prevent people from destroying the server, To test your skills etc, if you gave the power to everyone it wouldn't be fun would it? it would just be who memorizes the most commands and types fast, people could just spam /kill player, /tp player X X X, /gamemode 2 player, you get my point.

I sarcastically wrote in the suggestion why hacking should be made into legitimate features. Outside of that sarcasm and put straightforwardly, you're right.

 

[Zombiepower]

They are working at anti-cheat

 

[betty's oldies]

They are working at anti-cheat

I see, so a few didn't read the thread. The first line of this thread stated that I never talked about the anticheat in this thread.

 

[Jqrz]

Hackers were once unique back then, because not all new how to hack.
But now even 9 year old hack like a BOSS! And this is not unique or funny anymore.
Hopefully There is a spectator mode so you can tell who is hacking!
Good Idea! =] TwinBros_HD

 

[Zombiepower]

I see, so a few didn't read the thread. The first line of this thread stated that I never talked about the anticheat in this thread.

Sorry my bad i will revieuw this when i am home

 

[AboodPlayz]

I sarcastically wrote in the suggestion why hacking should be made into legitimate features. Outside of that sarcasm and put straightforwardly, you're right.

i personally never try and see if the suggestion is being sarcastic and think "Oh this person must but serious about their suggestion and doesn't want a silly reply"

xTurtle has hacked in single player before. Early in the year, he made a short series called "Hacking in Single Player."

xTurtle If he ever did this it will most likely be for the viewers and i was NOT talking about youtubers hacking in single player i was talking about hacking by yourself without anyone watching you, it won't be fun or maybe just a little bit

 

[MooTa]

Question 1 Yes :)
Question 2 No :(

I agree

 

[betty's oldies]

xTurtle If he ever did this it will most likely be for the viewers and i was NOT talking about youtubers hacking in single player i was talking about hacking by yourself without anyone watching you, it won't be fun or maybe just a little bit

He actually did do it. It wouldn't be as fun since the player can always create the world or open to LAN and enable cheats, so no need for hacks there. One of xTurtle's hacking in single player (HISP) videos was uploaded late January (first one January 26 of this year to be exact).

I have an actual suggestion at the top -- that one is meant to be taken seriously as with the usual suggestions.

 

[TeaCookiesDeath]

Totally love the spectator mode! Not only would it be a great help to staff, it could provide for some funny entertainment. For the hacking thing, I feel that using the word 'hacks' is taboo, but I totally support Cubecraft developers making interesting and fun new games with fun features like the ones you describe.

 

[Zombiepower]

Question 1 Yes because i would like to see more hackers banned
Question 2 No , just no

 

[betty's oldies]

For the hacking thing, I feel that using the word 'hacks' is taboo, but I totally support Cubecraft developers making interesting and fun new games with fun features like the ones you describe.

Saying someone is hacking when you have evidence is okay, but if it's a false accusation and/or you're using hacks then it will harm your reputation as a player. Therefore, "hacks" being a taboo is subjective depending on how it's used.

Sadly, it's not likely to have devs code something like I described, but at least it'll put players on par with hackers in terms of gameplay.

 

[betty's oldies]

A sequel will probably come out explaining how hacks are considered legitimate features. I plan to make that part more detailed than I did in this thread.

To add more detail to spectator mode: at the start of the game, maybe have it so only about 4 players can join as spectators. For example, in a 24 player game, 24 can join normally while an extra 4 can join. Alternatively, only 24 normal players start, but spectators can join to take any empty spots from players who left the game.