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Solo Skywars - Bug

Discussion in 'Bug Reports/Support' started by Steyro, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Steyro

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    Here you see in the picture it sais 'No Kits or Abilities'. ->
    upload_2016-6-30_22-21-8.png
    But isn't it meant to be 'No Kits and Abilities.'

    Steyro
     
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    Another typo on the boards. This will be reported to the developers and should come on their fix list.


    Where did CubeCraft write? ;)
     
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    No idea! :p
     
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    Forwarded :)

    Thanks for reporting !
     
  5. LowFat

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    Shouldn't this be
    "No Kits nor Abilities" not "and" ?
     
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    I think "No kits or abilities" and "No kits and abilities" are fine, one is just more informal than the other.
    "nor" is usually followed by neither or when talking about 2 items or more. I may be wrong since I am a drop-out (English is my stronger subject though) but I'm pretty sure they're both fine.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's nor.

    If you use "and" you would have to put another "no" > No kits and no abilities.
    If you use "or" it's wrong because you have "no"

    I'm like 99% positive it's nor :p

    "Nor” doesn’t necessarily have to appear in a sentence with the word “neither.” “Nor” can start a sentence. For example, if you’ve just mentioned that you don’t usually wake up at 6 a.m. and you want to continue being negative, you can start another sentence with “nor”: “Nor do I like to wake up at 5 a.m.” Another option is to combine the two negative ideas into one sentence and then start the second part with “nor”: “I don’t usually wake up at 6 a.m., nor do I like to wake up at 5 a.m.”
     
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    Well if you want to use "nor" you would have to word it a little differently.
    "Neither kits nor abilities are available here. "

    You can use "or" and "and", for example:
    No cats or dogs allowed here.
    No cats and dogs allowed here.
    No cats nor dogs allowed here - sounds a little weird if you read it out loud.
    Neither cats nor dogs are allowed here - is the proper way.

    Hopefully I am not mistaken since I did self taught myself for a short period of time but you may be right.
     
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    I edited my post with a spoiler, check it out :p
     
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    I could've sworn this was locked by @DontYouDare.

    Well anyways, DontYouDare has already forwarded this to the developers:p. Also this has gone from a SkyWars bug, to grammar class. :eek:
     
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    I unlocked it because there's no point in forwarding something if the new thing is wrong too.
     
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    So i'm guessing the grammar fix is also wrong.
    Wow, we need more staff that are better grammar speakers/writers. ;) (Plz don't take this harshly, I don't mean it. :p)
    What do you mean by
    then?
     
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    I just read that but it seems like you will have to write something negative first to start/use a sentence without neither. Since it's not really a sentence and there was no negative statement made before, you can't add nor in it.

    For this, you do not need to put the "no" at the back as you already mentioned no.
    It's the same when you are referring to a person called Mary for example:
    Mary has a hair tie. She also has a bow. - See you do not need to mention Mary again as it's still her (Hope i am explaining it right >//< - the same where you don't need to mention "no" again because it's still no)
    Unless you are going to talk about someone else then it would be:
    Mary has a hair tie. Sandy also has a hair tie.

    Not really, "or" is commonly used with No in the front.
    For example, something we normally see in shops :
    [​IMG]
     
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    I did some research and saying ''no kits and abilities'' isn't a bad way to verbalize it.

    You're right about that.

    Either neither.PNG
    I locked it because I didn't find it very necessary to discuss this due to that ''no kits and abilities'' was the suggested way of verbalizing it and it's also not a wrong verbalization.

    Anyhow , I think that ''no kits and abilities'' and ''Neither kits nor abilities'' are both good ways to verbalize this if I'm not wrong.
     
  15. zRinne

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    Actually Either doesn't always have to be paired with Or since we are just using Or, unless we want to put Either inside but it isn't the same with or. (Sorry was this confusing? I'm not very good at explaining.) Either needs Or but Or doesn't need Either.. (When you want to use Either you need or afterwards but if you are using or only then you do not need to use Either unless you are comparing.)

    Something like :

    Do you like potatoes or cake?
    Do you like either potato or cake? - sounds wrong

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    [​IMG]

    In this case both options are unavailable so Either is not needed.