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Please re-balance Super Craft Bros kits

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by DopeRider, Mar 10, 2016.

  1. DopeRider

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    After the 1.9 update, Super Craft Bros is heavily unbalanced.

    I understand there are more pressing matters now, like fixing bugs. But sooner or later it'd be nice if you take a look at this issue. You nerfed Wither kit a few months ago, limiting shooting rate, so it seems you are aware of this kind of unbalances.

    "Sword kits" like Cactus or Zombie are nigh useless now. Cool down time makes very difficult to make a kill.
    OTOH bowmen kits (Blaze and Skeleton) have become too OP. These kits were already a little advantaged to begin with. Now they're not even in the same league.

    I'd suggest applying stronger enchants to "Overpowered Zombie" mode (that gives players a second or two of diamond gear), to Wither's star and to Cactus' sword. I don't use much Enderman or Spider, so I'm not sure where they stand now.
    Creeper's gunpowder weapon (the pushing, left click thing, not the explosion) could use a higher level of punch too. TIA
     
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    Cactus = Absolute undisputed champ
    Zombie = Viable, but clearly not as viable as cactus
    Blaze = Viable, but clearly not as viable as cactus
    Skeleton = The only thing that this kit had going for it was it final smash, which is now useless
    Spider = Almost ruined, as you cannot spam-click, circle-strafe anymore
    Wither = Haven't tried it yet, although I assume that it's not so great
    Enderman = Buffed, since its final smash functions the way it's supposed to now. Not as Viable as Cactus, but it's actually not too bad anymore :)
    Creeper = Doesn't seem as though there are many changes here.. Viable on some maps, useless on others
     
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    Are you kidding? I'll take any bet (once you fix the double jump bug, of course) of cactus against skeleton. I haven't seen any single game won by a cactus since the upgrade and many many games won by skeletons.

    How is it useless? Right now it's the most powerful weapon in the game. Try beating an experienced skeleton player while you use any "sword kit".

    What do you mean enderman's final smash? This kit has no "final smash" weapon. It has a weak sword (the eye), invisibility and pearl tp.

    Creeper is broken because one of its weapons is gone. Hadn't you noticed?
     
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    I've tried using the Cactus myself, and it's still very dominant in PvP. Just because there's something better than it, doesn't make it a poor weapon of choice.
    This was a misunderstanding, as I had not actually tried the kit myself since the update as prior to 1.9 I was a spider fan, and therefore assumed that the Skeleton Final smash would deal less damage, given how many arrows are shot in such a quick succession. After being annihilated by the Skeleton Final smash, I decided to try it out and got 12 kills(?) within around three minutes. It's far stronger than pre-patch Wither, therefore I have reported the issue so it'll hopefully be resolved soon because the Skeleton kit as of now is far too powerful.
    Prior to 1.9, the Enderman's final smash would not benefit the user at all, since their nametag would still be very clearly visible and therefore would give away the user's position. Since 1.9, it functions the way it's supposed to now, and properly cloaks the user.
    I had noticed, however I wouldn't really consider its splash potions a viable weapon due to the limit to how many you actually receive upon spawning in. Its final smash is still a dominant viable weapon and functions the way it should (Most of the time). As far as I am aware, the potion issue has been resolved now.
     
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    Cactus is still the Best like @superxsnap said
    Its has high damage and also with its smash!
    Skeletons don't do a lot of damage anymore and never did because I'm good at dodging arrows...
    Other kits are still under Cacti....
    And the double jump is ruined but who cares I can still get to other mobs in no time..
    Well I think you should train more in 1.9 PVP @DopeRider SSM is still good as ever...
     
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    Since the bow has no Power enchantment, there is no easy way to soften the kit without it becoming useless. It might be better to re-power the other kits.

    Yes, that's fixed. And take it from a Creeper expert :) potions are very important. Not because they're so powerful, but because it helps the explosion tactics. If a player camps in a hole to avoid being thrown out the map by your explosion, the potions are veeery handy.
     
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    I wonder if there are stats available for the game. I still go there once or twice a day, to see if the jump has been fixed, and every game that I play is won by skeletons. It would be interesting to confirm or refute this observation.

    It's funny how most people choose skeleton anyway. There are games in what every f*** player chose skelly :)

    Anyway, when (if?) the double jump is fixed (and supposing the kits are not rebalanced before), you are officially challenged :-D
     
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    you mean SCB, right?
     
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    Yup wrote to fast.....
    I only win with cactus.....
     
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    Wasn't it obvious? SCB with you using cactus and me using skeleton.
     
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    Neh was easy win.....
     
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    Well, up to you... maybe you could offer some resistance and prove your point :p
     
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    Oki lets have a match I as cactus and you as skeleton..... map you choose.....
     
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    Nice. But let's wait for the game to be fixed. Without double jump, SCB is not SCB.
     
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    Yeah its more like Sg without chests and with the same armor over and over again.....
     
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