Eggwars Competetive

mdk_chicken · Mar 20, 2018

You know what'd be awesome, a way of playing eggwars with people of your own caliber.

Let's face it, for the best among us, this game comes down to easily taking down the lesser players or having an endless war with other good players. Either way, it gets boring overtime. So here's what I came up with;

Competetive Season:

- Much like in overwatch; one can place by playing several placement matches, either win/loose ratio or kill/death ratio gives you a certain status
- After placement matches, you'll fight for even more points, to get into even higher leagueas (be lazy; just use stone-obsidian)
- At the end of a season, taking a month or so, give rewards per league, either in cubelets, points, or lootpoints and a season specific shield/particle effect or whatever.
- All of every player is deleted and they can retry on the placement matches.
- During the entire season it remains a possibility just to play casual; without a "balanced" composition

Now, I've realized this will be a **** to code, but don't worry, I don't need an overnight change. I'd just really like to have some more exciting games and prizes to win.

Maybe it'd be a possibiltiy to have a great x-hour multiplier feast on eggwars at the end or start of a season.

I think this would be great for publicity, you'd be the first server to add something like this. (As far as I know)

matcha · Mar 21, 2018

So pretty much ranked eggwars :v, sure thing!

comfyyy · Mar 21, 2018

IDK, you might not always have enough players to have a full, balanced game.

Shallidor · Mar 21, 2018

My opinion about this: No.

First of all, this would cause a division between ranked and non-ranked eggwars players, and especially solo eggwars doesn't have much players during certain times of the day.
Second, this would cause toxicity in the ranked games, because it actually matters if you win or lose. This would be even more in team mode, where you need your teammates.
Third, think about leaving: right now it's not a problem to leave games, but what if you leave ranked team games? Will you get punished for that? Not a good idea in my opinion.

Fourth, people will think this game is less fun. There will be a tryhard spirit, where you have to win to actually enjoy games.

:uber_cubelet:

CatsLoveRainbows · Mar 21, 2018

CookieBoy368 said:
My opinion about this: No.

First of all, this would cause a division between ranked and non-ranked eggwars players, and especially solo eggwars doesn't have much players during certain times of the day.
Second, this would cause toxicity in the ranked games, because it actually matters if you win or lose. This would be even more in team mode, where you need your teammates.
Third, think about leaving: right now it's not a problem to leave games, but what if you leave ranked team games? Will you get punished for that? Not a good idea in my opinion.

Fourth, people will think this game is less fun. There will be a tryhard spirit, where you have to win to actually enjoy games.

Ya what he said. :)

xsnow_ · Mar 23, 2018

yeah i agree when people are just way too good for you the game gets a bit boring we should make it like hearthstone XD

Injunction · Mar 23, 2018

Guess who will be the winners
People on the leaderboards
How do I know? Well because they are the ones who win the most

So no thank you

Cuteee · Mar 23, 2018

mdk_chicken said:
You know what'd be awesome, a way of playing eggwars with people of your own caliber.

Let's face it, for the best among us, this game comes down to easily taking down the lesser players or having an endless war with other good players. Either way, it gets boring overtime. So here's what I came up with;

Competetive Season:

- Much like in overwatch; one can place by playing several placement matches, either win/loose ratio or kill/death ratio gives you a certain status
- After placement matches, you'll fight for even more points, to get into even higher leagueas (be lazy; just use stone-obsidian)
- At the end of a season, taking a month or so, give rewards per league, either in cubelets, points, or lootpoints and a season specific shield/particle effect or whatever.
- All of every player is deleted and they can retry on the placement matches.
- During the entire season it remains a possibility just to play casual; without a "balanced" composition

Now, I've realized this will be a **** to code, but don't worry, I don't need an overnight change. I'd just really like to have some more exciting games and prizes to win.

Maybe it'd be a possibiltiy to have a great x-hour multiplier feast on eggwars at the end or start of a season.

I think this would be great for publicity, you'd be the first server to add something like this. (As far as I know)

But, how would cubecraft know what players deserve beeing on ranked, as far as I know many players just get carried and they don't deserve high levels, so in muy opinion this would be a pointless update cause only the actual good players would win on ranked by fighting people who don't deserve beeing on ranked. No, sorry.

Lightning McQueen · Mar 24, 2018

Yes that wpuld be great. I’d love to go up against higher skill levels.

Unicornn said:
But, how would cubecraft know what players deserve beeing on ranked, as far as I know many players just get carried and they don't deserve high levels, so in muy opinion this would be a pointless update cause only the actual good players would win on ranked by fighting people who don't deserve beeing on ranked. No, sorry.

People who get carried will NEVER make it past the first few leagues.

Cuteee · Mar 24, 2018

sylly with ultra instinct said:
Yes that wpuld be great. I’d love to go up against higher skill levels.

People who get carried will NEVER make it past the first few leagues.

Isn't it team eggwars

Ishallkillyou · Mar 24, 2018

I don't agree.eggwars is fun because we can kill the less experienced players easily and then fight for victory with the other good players.this balance is what makes the game enjoyable.when you are faced with someone you dunno if he is gonna spam 1.8 hit you or do tons of damage my proper PvP skills.this makes the game entertaining.howerver if only bad or good players play in a game,you don't really have fun so yeah ranked battles must be prohibited.

CommunistCactus · Mar 25, 2018

5ish said:
IDK, you might not always have enough players to have a full, balanced game.

or you might have enough players because they like it.

CookieBoy368 said:
First of all, this would cause a division between ranked and non-ranked eggwars players, and especially solo eggwars doesn't have much players during certain times of the day.

players can still play both.

CookieBoy368 said:
Second, this would cause toxicity in the ranked games, because it actually matters if you win or lose. This would be even more in team mode, where you need your teammates.

toxicity is impossible to prevent and already abundant, but sure, for the heck of it just remove global chat in competitive. Also, if individuals can't handle toxicity in a minecraft chat, that's on them and they should just turn off the chat.

CookieBoy368 said:
Third, think about leaving: right now it's not a problem to leave games, but what if you leave ranked team games? Will you get punished for that?

Yes.

CookieBoy368 said:
Fourth, people will think this game is less fun. There will be a tryhard spirit, where you have to win to actually enjoy games.

Pretending that that doesn't already exist.

jollow250 said:
Guess who will be the winners
People on the leaderboards
How do I know? Well because they are the ones who win the most

So no thank you

It's not about who play the most, it's about who play the best. Two totally different things.

Unicornn said:
Isn't it team eggwars

The system could look at it at an individual basis and not only whether your team wins or not, just like in most competitive gamemodes.

Ishallkillyou said:
don't agree.eggwars is fun because we can kill the less experienced players easily

Fun for you, not for them.

Ishallkillyou said:
.this balance is what makes the game enjoyable

how can you call killing less experienced players easily "balanced"?

Ishallkillyou said:
this makes the game entertaining.

again, it makes it fun for you, not for them. Think about someone else for a second.

Ishallkillyou said:
.howerver if only bad or good players play in a game,you don't really have fun

Those 2 things are in no way connected. I'd have a lot more fun if I could match up with players of equal skill.

Shallidor · Mar 26, 2018

CommunistCactus said:
players can still play both.

Yes, but let's say 50% of the eggwars players turn to competitive (ranked) eggwars, it would take double as long to start a game. Or even worse, let's say 90% of the eggwars players like it, it means for the last 10% it would be almost impossible to join a game. This is mainly for solo eggwars.

CommunistCactus said:
toxicity is impossible to prevent and already abundant, but sure, for the heck of it just remove global chat in competitive. Also, if individuals can't handle toxicity in a minecraft chat, that's on them and they should just turn off the chat.

Okay, there is already toxicity but this would increase it, you can't deny that. About your global chat removal, it might be smart but what about people insulting their teammates for playing bad? And 'turn off chat' is pretty stupid because you can't communicate with nice player either then.

CommunistCactus said:
Yes.

How would you punish that? Temporary ban? People will just afk in game instead of leaving, same result but no punishment.

CommunistCactus said:
Pretending that that doesn't already exist.

It does indeed exist already, but this would clearly make it worse. Just saying that a problem already exists, doesn't mean we shouldn't care about increasing it.

CommunistCactus · Mar 26, 2018

CookieBoy368 said:
Yes, but let's say

That's where it's invalid already.
I could just as easily turn it around with something equally assumptive;
"Yes, but let's say hypixel players really like competetive and all move to cubecraft"

CookieBoy368 said:
what about people insulting their teammates for playing bad?

screenshot and report if it's really that bad. toxicity shouldn't ruin a good game in it's entirety.

CookieBoy368 said:
How would you punish that?

lower their ranking dramatically like all other competitive games do when a players leaves the game.

Shallidor · Mar 26, 2018

CommunistCactus said:
That's where it's invalid already.
I could just as easily turn it around with something equally assumptive;
"Yes, but let's say hypixel players really like competetive and all move to cubecraft"

You're right, that was a bad way of saying it. But whatever happens, it either makes the wait time longer or, even worse, make one of them so impopular that it's almost impossible to find games at certain times.

CommunistCactus said:
screenshot and report if it's really that bad. toxicity shouldn't ruin a good game in it's entirety.

Not all insults/toxicity is reportable, but I guess it's a fair point.

CommunistCactus said:
lower their ranking dramatically like all other competitive games do when a players leaves the game.

Yeah I can't deny, that's a fair punishment.

matcha · Mar 26, 2018

I don't really see how toxicity ruins a game. Might be hurtful to your pride, but if it's something you can't report, then it probably shouldn't hurt you too much.

SpankMeSanta · Mar 26, 2018

Would be an amazing idea. Only reason this won't be added is because of toxicity, but honestly who cares if people are toxic, if you can't handle people saying mean things to you on a competitive game then you shouldn't be playing that competitive game, you should be playing creative mode building pixel art on singleplayer or something.
Good idea, very possible to code, but cubecraft won't add this, I can be sure of that.

mdk_chicken · Mar 26, 2018

SpankMeSanta said:
Good idea, very possible to code, but cubecraft won't add this, I can be sure of that.

But we can hope :P

SenatorKarma · May 25, 2018

jollow250 said:
Guess who will be the winners
People on the leaderboards
How do I know? Well because they are the ones who win the most

So no thank you

The people on the leader boards just try hard the game anyway.
They are rlly easy to kill in 1v1's

TheLucian · May 25, 2018

_DontTryToHitMe said:
The people on the leader boards just try hard the game anyway.
They are rlly easy to kill in 1v1's

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