Increase the price of golden apples, too many people chug them.

CommandantSlime · Oct 23, 2017

I don't see the problem with longer fights at all. Who cares? What difference does it make? In a game that takes half an hour, I only PvP for about eight minutes of the game. In an hour-long game, it's more like twenty minutes. PvP time increases proportionally as the game goes on. My point is, if you don't enjoy long fights, don't play eggwars. I, for one, enjoy longer games. I love the rare two-hour long game (As long as you don't camp it will end fast, and I love fighting campers.). Anyways, can someone explain to me? What's wrong with a fight that's two minutes long? Healing items are meant to make fights longer. Increasing the price will only make people camp on their islands to get the same amounts of gapples.

Gapples are only a problem on OP. On normal, they're fine. I don't care about statistics and what should happen, I care about experience and what does happen. From my experience, there is no issue. On OP, yes they make fights a little longer, but it's not a big issue. I've never had a single encounter that lasted longer than five minutes tops.

So yeah. What's the issue? Why are long fights a problem? When you play eggwars, you need to be ready for a long game. If you want shorter games and fights, play speed eggwars. Some of us like longer fights.

MarcoPlayzz · Oct 23, 2017

CommandantSlime said:
What's wrong with a fight that's two minutes long? Healing items are meant to make fights longer. Increasing the price will only make people camp on their islands to get the same amounts of gapples.

The problem is people keep chuggin gapples, making it really annoying. There is nothing wrong of healing items, the only problem is that they are too cheap, Devs need to make them more expensive. That's all I want

CommandantSlime said:
Why are long fights a problem

There is no long fights, its just 3-5 min.

CommandantSlime said:
What's the issue?

Too many gapples, and really cheap.

MarcoPlayzz · Oct 23, 2017

I think cubecraft should leave It like this, there is no major issue about this.

0ffense · Oct 24, 2017

I never really thought to bring this up, even though it tends to happen very frequently. What if you chasing a gapple chugger. That means that you cant lure them to the edge in order to knock them off. So how do you kill those guys? I just played a game of eggwars on the teaparty map and failed 5 times in a row at killing them.

Pretty sure this eliminates everyones main argument to not nerf the golden apple.

CommandantSlime · Oct 24, 2017

MajesticMark said:
The problem is people keep chuggin gapples, making it really annoying. There is nothing wrong of healing items, the only problem is that they are too cheap, Devs need to make them more expensive. That's all I want

There is no long fights, its just 3-5 min.

Too many gapples, and really cheap.

Then what's the issue? Long fights aren't a problem. Sure, it's annoying, but you can deal with it. If it's just an annoyance, not a major issue (which it isn't), so why does it require attention from the devs? I don't see any imbalance other than they can make fights longer. If that's not your issue, then what is? "It's too cheap" is not valid unless the price causes some kind of balance issue. What issue does the price cause? In OP it makes fights a little longer, in normal it's fine. In hardcore it's fine. What's the issue? I'm still wondering...

Rigel_The_Star said:
I never really thought to bring this up, even though it tends to happen very frequently. What if you chasing a gapple chugger. That means that you cant lure them to the edge in order to knock them off. So how do you kill those guys? I just played a game of eggwars on the teaparty map and failed 5 times in a row at killing them.

Pretty sure this eliminates everyones main argument to not nerf the golden apple.

Let them run. You don't HAVE to finish everyone you meet...

MajesticMark said:
I think cubecraft should leave It like this, there is no major issue about this.View attachment 139071

I don't get it. That's a pricey investment that will be lost if you die once.Getting that many gapples requires camping and/or midcamping, so I don't see the issue. Also, if someone has basic combat skills they can still kill you. Gapples have never saved anyone if you just sit there chugging them. Your armour will break and you will die.

0ffense · Oct 24, 2017

CommandantSlime said:
Let them run. You don't HAVE to finish everyone you meet...

Lol but then they're going to buy better weapons, armor and of course, more golden apples.

SpankMeSanta · Oct 24, 2017

Rigel_The_Star said:
I never really thought to bring this up, even though it tends to happen very frequently. What if you chasing a gapple chugger. That means that you cant lure them to the edge in order to knock them off. So how do you kill those guys? I just played a game of eggwars on the teaparty map and failed 5 times in a row at killing them.

Pretty sure this eliminates everyones main argument to not nerf the golden apple.

Break their armour.
The problem with limited gapples = fights will be based on gapples.
If gapples are assumed to be "cheap", both players will have enough gapples = fights will be based on armour.
Fights based on armour is better because armour damage = damage taken, so the more damage you deal to your opponent the quicker you'll kill them.
If Gapples are more expensive and limited, the player with the most gapples will win, its as simple as that.

MarcoPlayzz · Oct 24, 2017

SpankMeSanta said:
Break their armour.
The problem with limited gapples = fights will be based on gapples.
If gapples are assumed to be "cheap", both players will have enough gapples = fights will be based on armour.
Fights based on armour is better because armour damage = damage taken, so the more damage you deal to your opponent the quicker you'll kill them.
If Gapples are more expensive and limited, the player with the most gapples will win, its as simple as that.

The fights are like you said based on armour to kill them, but people always have backups, so they can keep chuggin gapples, the other option is knock them off either with bow, or combo him.

0ffense · Oct 24, 2017

Garnet said:
@Rigel_The_Star I found out what your problem is you dont know about the attack cooldown in 1.9. Read this thread https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/how-to-do-better-in-minecraft-pvp.194776/

Of course I know what the 1.9 attack cooldown is, Im not a noob.

CommandantSlime · Oct 24, 2017

MajesticMark said:
The fights are like you said based on armour to kill them, but people always have backups, so they can keep chuggin gapples, the other option is knock them off either with bow, or combo him.

Only about 1/10 people I fight have a spare set of armour on them. I've encountered people who have extra sets at their base in a chest, but not on them in a fight.

CommandantSlime · Oct 24, 2017

Also, if anyone can buy huge amounts of gapples, who cares? You both can have stacks, so it's fair.

MajesticMark said:
I think cubecraft should leave It like this, there is no major issue about this.View attachment 139071

Forgot to mention, you're on OP. That means that golden apples are five times cheaper than on the mode that doesn't need a price increase. On OP, I wouldn't mind an increase. I don't want one, but I'm fine if there is a price increase. I don't want a price increase on normal, however.

toby- · Oct 27, 2017

I think it's no problem because you don't have to make him dead, you can also punch him off or play it smart. I almost never kill someone if they have full iron with a stack of golden apples, just play it smart and there won't be any problems ;)

Nexyplayz · Oct 27, 2017

in my opinion increase the price of the golden apples will not make a big ideal for the game so i think it should be stay like what is now. :rolleyes:

giesko · Oct 27, 2017

if you really wanna play with less golden apples go play hardcore mode or speed eggwars. butt dont ruin the normal version

MarcoPlayzz · Oct 27, 2017

giesko said:
if you really wanna play with less golden apples go play hardcore mode or speed eggwars. butt dont ruin the normal version

That's the problem, people don't like hardcode so they want golden apples more expensive, especially in OP.

Toppie · Oct 27, 2017

I like a long fight, makes pvp more skilled bc you get to practice your skills. It also brings other skills into play such as more armour or weapons. There are also voting choices that help counter grappling, I love half health. I’ve therefore got no problems with the price of apples.

0ffense · Nov 2, 2017

Toppie said:
I like a long fight, makes pvp more skilled bc you get to practice your skills. It also brings other skills into play such as more armour or weapons. There are also voting choices that help counter grappling, I love half health. I’ve therefore got no problems with the price of apples.

Having more armor or weapons is not a skill. I like long fights to, just not ones that take 3 minutes, thats long enough for someones teammate to come and save them. Not everyone can vote, so chugging is still a problem.

Also, bump.

CommandantSlime · Nov 2, 2017

Rigel_The_Star said:
Having more armor or weapons is not a skill. I like long fights to, just not ones that take 3 minutes, thats long enough for someones teammate to come and save them. Not everyone can vote, so chugging is still a problem.

Also, bump.

That's why team coordination is required. I rarely enter a fight alone, and when I do, I make sure I have better gear. You if it's long enough for their teammate to come help, it's long enough for yours to help too.

0ffense · Nov 2, 2017

CommandantSlime said:
That's why team coordination is required. I rarely enter a fight alone, and when I do, I make sure I have better gear. You if it's long enough for their teammate to come help, it's long enough for yours to help too.

Well if Im correct, you play with friends all the time and dont get random teammates. Everyone else for the most part gets random teammates who pretty much never listen to you so you cant always rely on them.

FartiliciousMaleGuy · Nov 2, 2017

Rigel_The_Star said:
Well if Im correct, you play with friends all the time and dont get random teammates. Everyone else for the most part gets random teammates who pretty much never listen to you so you cant always rely on them.

The same can be said about the ones you're fighting against though...Sorry to be somewhat the devils advocate here in your case.

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