OVERHAULING DUELS LEADERBOARD SYSTEM.

Despacito 2 · Mar 30, 2017

Hello people of the Internet,
Here is a suggestion I have been wanting to make for a long, very long time.

Overhauling the Duels leaderboard system from kills to actual rankings.

Simply said(TL;DR): Add a ranking system...

Anyway,
Currently it's really depressing to see people kill you and instantly leave the game. To get on the leaderboard you need kills, kills don't really prove someone's skill. Except for @MastaWinda and @zNarwhal but not even they are on number 1. Not to mention @vinlir who isn't even on the leaderboards is pretty much skilled enough to be on it.
The leaderboard relies on kills. It would be fine if it were for a gamemode like FFA, but Duels? not really.
You can simply play 1 month without any breaks and maybe even get to 5th.
Not everyone has 1 month free time to try and get to 5th!
Some people played since the launch of Duels (AKA May 1st 2016) and still have around 500 kills. (me)

Also playing with people who are less skilled than you can get pretty boring!
[INSERT BUT YOU WONT IMPROVE YOUR SELF EXCUSE]
Hahaha, really now?
Did you see Badlion? They have an Ranking system with players a bit more and less skilled than you and they constantly keep improving.
You want to know why?
Simple! They learn from their mistakes after losing and simply keep improving and improving.
They learn from people who have almost the same amount of skill as them.
Not to mention that you could still play unranked matches. No one is stopping you from playing them..
I'm pretty sure there is enough place to shove another NPC in there with *Ranked Matches* above it.

Last but not least.
It's actually a good addition to duels that almost everyone wants to see.
I want to see how skilled I am and can get.
There are no actual competitive 1.9 servers out there.
Most are 1.8 because self proclaimed PvP gods can't teach themselves how to learn PvP from square one again.
And probably will never accept this amazing change they did to Minecraft's PvP system.

Welp thanks for reading!
Chalas.

Thefty · Mar 30, 2017

Honestly I'd love to see this implemented so much. Would love to see how "skilled" I actually am. ;3

Despacito 2 · Mar 30, 2017

BTW for the ones who are voting or voted No:
"Please explain why."

vinlir · Mar 30, 2017

As you said there really aren't any competitive servers out there so this has a lot of potential. It's way more fun fighting an actually skilled player than the casuel spawn-clicker. So I would love this ! The problem is that even now it sometimes takes a minute to find a game, so with this you'd probably wont find a match or just fight the same person over and over. But hopefully this would attract lots of players wich means problem fixed !
And they should just make a damn stats website, as of now you really get no information where you're situated (unless you're in the top 5) and for ranked this is rather important. But yeah I would be happy if just somthing ranked got added.
Btw there are a lot of people better than me.

matcha · Mar 31, 2017

So basically an elo system? Or something along that sort? I would love to see this implemented.

Power Ranger · Mar 31, 2017

Dotsy said:
BTW for the ones who are voting or voted No:
"Please explain why."

I didn't read the thread so I voted for that option first.

Now that I've read the thread I think it would be a good idea :P Except Ive learned PvP from fighting people who were significantly better than me until I could match them so working people on your skill level is not the best you want people who are at least slightly better than you to keep improving :P Getting killed over and over again by the best 1.9 pvpers at the time taught me very well I would say :3 I would like the leaderboards to reflect ELO rating or whatever but editing the queues would require more players to play duels as often time there might only be 20 different people dueling between all the queues.

Dotsy said:
There are no actual competitive 1.9 servers out there.

My practice server is pretty competitive as all the tryhards go there usually xD but its FFA so it doesn't really count I guess :P

Also I don't get how people can call themselves 1.8 pvp gods and be bad at 1.9 pvp... Most of the skills transfer over between versions... Honestly I used to be crap at 1.8 pvp but after practicing 1.9 for so long I can finally hold my own in it :D

matcha · Mar 31, 2017

POWER_RANGER said:
Also I don't get how people can call themselves 1.8 pvp gods and be bad at 1.9 pvp... Most of the skills transfer over between versions... Honestly I used to be crap at 1.8 pvp but after or ticing 1.9 for so long I can finally hold my own in it :D

The timing of hits and different kb can knock people off. Besides the PvP fight are pretty different as critical aren't used as much. It's more about strafes.

ELgamerYT · Mar 31, 2017

This would be somewhat of an ELO system, which sound like a very good idea for a game like duels. What I would suggest is everyone starts out at 1000 rating, and dependent on your currect rank the amount of rating you receive from a win could vary. Let me put this in a spreadsheet:

Something along the lines of this could work, I also think it should reset from time to time, (maybe giving the top players a cosmetic reward).

Hopefully this helps actually making it a thing, have a great day.

-ELgamer

Despacito 2 · Mar 31, 2017

ELgamerYT said:
This would be somewhat of an ELO system, which sound like a very good idea for a game like duels. What I would suggest is everyone starts out at 1000 rating, and dependent on your currect rank the amount of rating you receive from a win could vary. Let me put this in a spreadsheet:

Something along the lines of this could work, I also think it should reset from time to time, (maybe giving the top players a cosmetic reward).

Hopefully this helps actually making it a thing, have a great day.

-ELgamer

Indeed!
Maybe the ratings should be a bit different.
They could implement a similar rip off from CS;GO's Ranking system like Badlion did.
And simply change the name of every rank into something more Cubecraft themed.
I don't really know any other competitive games with ratting systems.

MastaWinda · Mar 31, 2017

Dotsy said:
I don't really know any other competitive games with ratting systems.

Most MOBAs like League of Legends[Ladder], Heroes of Newerth[ELO], DOTA 2[ELO]. A lot of FPS games, CS:GO[Ranks] being one of them. RTS games like StarCraft[Ranks based on ELO], the Age of Empires[ELO] series, the Command & Conquer[Community] series. Many of the new generations have guild based rankings, based on speed raids and the gear. Etc.

Despacito 2 · Mar 31, 2017

MastaWinda said:
Most MOBAs like League of Legends[Ladder]

Ewww

MastaWinda said:
Heroes of Newerth[ELO]

Ewww

MastaWinda said:
DOTA 2[ELO]

Ewww

MastaWinda said:
A lot of FPS games, CS:GO[Ranks] being one of them.

Hm

MastaWinda said:
RTS games like StarCraft[Ranks based on ELO], the Age of Empires[ELO] series, the Command & Conquer[Community] series.

I played Age of empires but probably not long enough to earn any rankings.

MastaWinda said:
Many of the new generations have guild based rankings, based on speed raids and the gear. Etc.

Most MMO's do indeed.

Jef15ist · Mar 31, 2017

Who cares about stealing other people's ELO system... CSGO isn't comparable to MC's standard as CSGO isn't as big as MC. I would totally agree as I made a similar thread in the past, and the only thing cube is lacking is ranking system. Cube wanted to implement one but hasn't done it yet. I think cube is probably working on this, but would take in a few suggestions, so yes for me.

Dotsy said:
Most are 1.8 because self proclaimed PvP gods can't teach themselves how to learn PvP from square one again.

...1.8 is the best mode for competitive PvP...(even Jens bergensten agrees)
Kind of agree they don't want to play 1.9 anymore because of combat, but most servers support 1.9 with 1.8 combat, so 1.8 is still the most-played PvP mode.

Despacito 2 · Mar 31, 2017

Jefsweatsgames said:
...1.8 is the best mode for competitive PvP...(even Jens bergensten agrees)
Kind of agree they don't want to play 1.9 anymore because of combat, but most servers support 1.9 with 1.8 combat, so 1.8 is still the most-played PvP mode.

Who even is Jens bergensten?
Anyway Cubecraft support mostly 1.9 PvP so downgrading it would make allot of players mad.
BTW 1.8 isn't,
Both have their ups and downs that you don't like it is simply your opinion.

Jef15ist · Mar 31, 2017

Dotsy said:
Who even is Jens bergensten?
Anyway Cubecraft support mostly 1.9 PvP so downgrading it would make allot of players mad.

No don't downgrade, attract people so they can come to 1.9!

Dotsy said:
BTW 1.8 isn't,
Both have their ups and downs that you don't like it is simply your opinion.

So, then it doesn't matter which version other servers run on.

Despacito 2 · Mar 31, 2017

Jefsweatsgames said:
So, then it doesn't matter which version other servers run on.

No it doesn't.

KidBit · Mar 31, 2017

i love this idea like Thefty said i would really like to see how "good" i am

Empty Inside · Mar 31, 2017

Dotsy said:
Most are 1.8 because self proclaimed PvP gods can't teach themselves how to learn PvP from square one again.
And probably will never accept this amazing change they did to Minecraft

Hehe (;

Fennec · Mar 31, 2017

ELgamerYT said:
This would be somewhat of an ELO system, which sound like a very good idea for a game like duels. What I would suggest is everyone starts out at 1000 rating, and dependent on your currect rank the amount of rating you receive from a win could vary. Let me put this in a spreadsheet:

Something along the lines of this could work, I also think it should reset from time to time, (maybe giving the top players a cosmetic reward).

Hopefully this helps actually making it a thing, have a great day.

-ELgamer

Sounds more like hypixel's ranked skywars system tho !

CommunistCactus · Mar 31, 2017

Dotsy said:
Who even is Jens bergensten?

FTFY

btw I fully support this suggestion.

6views_ · Mar 31, 2017

I really like the ELO idea as it's very rare that I'll come up against someone who is skilled equally to me. It would make PvPs more interesting as each fight would be more tense and would avoid a player being absolutely rinsed, or absolutely rinsing someone else.

I don't see it as copying other servers, more like following the benchmark. If someone else has a good system why not use it too? Everything is copied these days, its how innovation works. I fully support this idea.

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