The problem is, that with new posts and minigames coming up almost all the time.
There has to be someone to translate those
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There has to be someone to translate those
Saying that I think they deserve to lose all staff privileges is utter nonsense, as I said that I am very happy for them because of the role they have, which you could have read in the disclaimer I wrote at the end of the thread. No, the people do not deserve to lose the rank, that is a huge misconception as you're basically putting words in my mouth that I haven't said. I don't think the rank has a real use (apart from acknowleding/rewarding the player in question, but you can read my opinion on that in my previous posts), that doesn't mean that I think the people deserve to lose their rank at all. You're telling me I am sending hate towards the translators while this is not true nor was it ever the intention of this thread. I am questioning the necessity of the translator rank and the number of people that receive it, regardless of what they have done for the server, that's not with the intention to hurt one another.
About the reporter rank: This part was completely taken out of context by you as I didn't suggest a reporter rank. It was an example provided by me to show how in my opinion, the arguments used by Story and Marijn weren't something I'd agree with. You could have noticed by reading "It's completely different but doesn't really make sense either in this context with the reasons you provided."
Anyhow, comparisons to other roles like developer and designer will not change my opinion on the translator role because those are different subjects and entirely different departments.
You are specifically targetting Translator even though all your arguments apply to Designer and Developer too.
The thread is about that he's of the opinion that the Translator rank has no real use and that too many players who have the translation rank. Not about Designers and Developers, there is no single reason to bring them upon this. An argument doesn't work like that;
"I don't thing this is good..."
"But, this also isn't good!"
That's not an argument, at the very maximum it's showing the inability of being able to find any real standing argument against it or at least not saying them...
As a topper, the Developer rank has real use. A Developer might need to be able to use certain commands in game were they trying to fix any bug/...
As of currently, we are at around 122 staff members. So even without the Translator staff team, we wouldn't drop below a hundred.
Why should the Translator rank (and only the Translator rank) be removed then?
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There has to be someone to translate those
Whilst the translation are amazing for the server. It's not the translators that provided them ( i.e. as the only unit).
The design team on their own (+ map submissions) make all things that are released.
The translation are done by an entire team with way more players then those that have translation rank. Which makes their way of working competently different and thus far from fundamentally the same.
As for my opinion on whenever the rank is obsolete, I somewhat believe it to be. Since I view the TT to be fundamentally equivalent to the report site. People who do things out of themselves to make the server a better place. The means of what it’s done with is quite different. But I believe the star system to make up for that
The design team on their own (+ map submissions) make all things that are released.
The translation are done by an entire team with way more players then those that have translation rank. Which makes their way of working competently different and thus far from fundamentally the same.
As for my opinion on whenever the rank is obsolete, I somewhat believe it to be. Since I view the TT to be fundamentally equivalent to the report site. People who do things out of themselves to make the server a better place. The means of what it’s done with is quite different. But I believe the star system to make up for that
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CubeCraft Games is extremely lucky to have a massive international player base - millions of players coming from all around the world, younger and older, enjoying both our Bedrock and Java platforms, showing great support by purchasing the awesome store and Marketplace content our team has to offer and expanding their participation by visiting many of our other platforms and websites.
Team CubeCraft is one big family composed of many talented individuals. Regardless if they're paid or voluntary, regardless of the responsibilities they have obtained out of the great variety of roles we have - They all create content, improve content, they all have their unique contribution to making CubeCraft Games what it is today.
Whether you're volunteering tons of your hours providing expensive, vital translation work in great quantity and quality, or you help us run, improve and develop this massive place - You guys are all part of Team CubeCraft, your contributions are seen and appreciated and you deserve a chance to join our family no more or less than any other current family member.
CubeCraft Games will continue expanding in players and content for as long as it exists. Not only do we not have regrets for having invited those beautiful individuals to our team, but we are wanting to see them continue growing and improving, so they're able to strive even faster to achieving our ambitious goals of making each tiny bit of Bedrock, Java, Marketplace content, website, social platform more accessible to people all around the world.
CubeCraft Games is extremely lucky to have a massive international player base - millions of players coming from all around the world, younger and older, enjoying both our Bedrock and Java platforms, showing great support by purchasing the awesome store and Marketplace content our team has to offer and expanding their participation by visiting many of our other platforms and websites.
Team CubeCraft is one big family composed of many talented individuals. Regardless if they're paid or voluntary, regardless of the responsibilities they have obtained out of the great variety of roles we have - They all create content, improve content, they all have their unique contribution to making CubeCraft Games what it is today.
Whether you're volunteering tons of your hours providing expensive, vital translation work in great quantity and quality, or you help us run, improve and develop this massive place - You guys are all part of Team CubeCraft, your contributions are seen and appreciated and you deserve a chance to join our family no more or less than any other current family member.
CubeCraft Games will continue expanding in players and content for as long as it exists. Not only do we not have regrets for having invited those beautiful individuals to our team, but we are wanting to see them continue growing and improving, so they're able to strive even faster to achieving our ambitious goals of making each tiny bit of Bedrock, Java, Marketplace content, website, social platform more accessible to people all around the world.
@Elenahh it’s a nice text and beautifully explained everything you said!
But I don’t see any connection to the thread and what it was about... in fact I only read translation once....
But I don’t see any connection to the thread and what it was about... in fact I only read translation once....
I don't think that's what this thread is about. I mean translators in the way of people with a red name, people with the rank. You're not gonna need the rank to translate games.
I don't agree with that statement you've just made. In no way do I disrespect the team as a whole and the work they do, I in fact have huge respect for the translating people on the server as they are doing a massive job by working together, while the managers of the translations team are doing their very best to keep the server running. False accusation imo. It's just the translator rank that I don't agree with, reasons for that you can read on the previous page.
You’re allowed to have an opinion, and I respect it, but here’s mine (has nothing to do with my position as staff). This whole thread seems rude. As someone who knows translator staff, they’re all really nice, genuine people who are nice to everyone. All of these people are either heads for the translation team (a lot of work) or are translators who have dedicated a crazy amount of time to the server. As staff members, they enjoy all the perks of being staff which is something I think is barely enough for the amount of time and effort that is put into this server. By creating a thread saying they all deserve to lose staff privileges (which is kind of necessary to them) is insulting. Imagine you just became a “Reporter Rank” as you suggested, and then all of a sudden, everyone hates you even though all you’ve done is help the server. These translators are a fundamental part of the staff team and I’m so proud to be working with them. Having this rank on the network does not affect you negatively, it only seems to affect the owners of the rank. The amount of hate translators receive is just straight up rude and I hope that one day you can come to realize this. No hate towards you or anyone in this thread.
I can at least provide 1 reason why the Moderation team needs people with translator ranks. We often get reports in languages that we do not understand. Knowing that there are a bunch of people that we can be 100% certain of that they’re translating right is very helpful to us. I’ve had bug reports about Bulgarian translations that even made Elenahh doubt if the translator was Bulgarian. Knowing that I can go to (for example) Victor or iWhy to ask for confirmation is awesome and really helps the moderation team a lot. We can rely on trustworthy sources because these people earned their ranks.
EDIT: I also do not really see the problem here. Is there anything that blocks you from functioning on CubeCraft or does the rank block other players from functioning on CubeCraft? If not, then I really do not see the point of having this discussion as the translator rank is already a thing and the standards for it have already been determined.
EDIT: I also do not really see the problem here. Is there anything that blocks you from functioning on CubeCraft or does the rank block other players from functioning on CubeCraft? If not, then I really do not see the point of having this discussion as the translator rank is already a thing and the standards for it have already been determined.
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Being a translator is not an easy thing, and the evidence of that is that there is a department in universities called translation.
After you read the first chapter please tell me if they've no actual use, even if it's only recruiting the translators to reward them for their work, I don't see any problem or mistake of doing that when it's deserved.
I just would like to end my reply by saying that if there were no translators, you would have seen the in-game chat filled with insults and inappropriate languages with offensive intentions and new comers will not feel welcomed when they join the server and this is only 1 benefit of translators.
At the beginning I want to comment on this small part of your thread from my point of view as a translator for about a year and month, indeed you can compare between the tasks of moderators and translators regardless of the variety but in terms of quantity, because translators aren't only limited to the things you've mentioned which is answering questions and helping with translating reports/appeals this is just a branch of the translator's job so let me simplify it for you, the responsibilities that the translators does behind the scenes are very big and require time and effort, for instance, from my experiment and way of translating I start translating words/sentences, then the journey of searching for better words that fit the context and the players knowledge begins and edit them grammatically to get the best possible form, and I won't talk or complain about huge articles you need to care of it's formatting, such as font size, color, direction of writing, etc., every translator knows about this torment especially right-sided languages (Arabic -Hebrew), so I expect after all this fatigue the reward is worth regardless of whether it is stars or rank.
Being a translator is not an easy thing, and the evidence of that is that there is a department in universities called translation.
I don't see that there is a large number of translators compared to the language teams in the translation team, as you noticed that there is only one translator or two translators maximum from each language team because in every team you will find a member who showed how much they're dedicated/hardworking to achieve it, also keep in mind that it's literally months of continuous work to obtain the translator role as it's a position you don't apply for and you get hand picked by the managers.
If you don't mind me asking, who actually told you that the staff team aren't needing them???
After you read the first chapter please tell me if they've no actual use, even if it's only recruiting the translators to reward them for their work, I don't see any problem or mistake of doing that when it's deserved.
I just would like to end my reply by saying that if there were no translators, you would have seen the in-game chat filled with insults and inappropriate languages with offensive intentions and new comers will not feel welcomed when they join the server and this is only 1 benefit of translators.
Why are you trying to move the conversation to the emotional parts? That's not relevant at all, and I honestly do not intend to be rude as I am trying to get my point across which I might do in a somewhat offensive manner, but I guess that's just my way of discussing. I know the people with the translator rank, and yes, they are fun people who are nice to others but how is that relevant to the question whether a translator rank should be there or not? You could say that I am rude and that's your opinion, but I most certainly don't agree with that as I always try to stay polite towards the people I am having a discussion with.
Saying that I think they deserve to lose all staff privileges is utter nonsense, as I said that I am very happy for them because of the role they have, which you could have read in the disclaimer I wrote at the end of the thread. No, the people do not deserve to lose the rank, that is a huge misconception as you're basically putting words in my mouth that I haven't said. I don't think the rank has a real use (apart from acknowleding/rewarding the player in question, but you can read my opinion on that in my previous posts), that doesn't mean that I think the people deserve to lose their rank at all. You're telling me I am sending hate towards the translators while this is not true nor was it ever the intention of this thread. I am questioning the necessity of the translator rank and the number of people that receive it, regardless of what they have done for the server, that's not with the intention to hurt one another.
About the reporter rank: This part was completely taken out of context by you as I didn't suggest a reporter rank. It was an example provided by me to show how in my opinion, the arguments used by Story and Marijn weren't something I'd agree with. You could have noticed by reading "It's completely different but doesn't really make sense either in this context with the reasons you provided."
Then why are you solely focussing on Translator? When the exact same could be said about Designer and Developer
so when you see someone with designer rank you can ask them to unban you
The designer role is necessary for giving possible feedback about things related to designing while developers need their roles for their announcements and threads about updates and they test stuff in game, I don't see why the developer role would be necessary. However, if you feel this way, then why not remove the designer role as well? (;
Anyhow, comparisons to other roles like developer and designer will not change my opinion on the translator role because those are different subjects and entirely different departments.
We simply don't. Feedback threads are almost always created by a Design Manager. Designers don't need a rank to take feedback. It's simply a rank to show our contribution towards the server, same as with Translator.
I'm pretty sure it's usually just an admin that writes up the announcement thread and then changes the author to say it was written by a developer instead- unless the admins were not too involved in the project. Developers don't need a rank to test stuff in-game because that takes place elsewhere.
You are specifically targetting Translator even though all your arguments apply to Designer and Developer too.
Literally could not care less.
Why does this matter at all?
Well, because that's what the thread is about...
The thread is about that he's of the opinion that the Translator rank has no real use and that too many players who have the translation rank. Not about Designers and Developers, there is no single reason to bring them upon this. An argument doesn't work like that;
"I don't thing this is good..."
"But, this also isn't good!"
That's not an argument, at the very maximum it's showing the inability of being able to find any real standing argument against it or at least not saying them...
As a topper, the Developer rank has real use. A Developer might need to be able to use certain commands in game were they trying to fix any bug/...
Again, Developers would not need a rank specifically to fix this. And yes, it's foolish to focus on the Translator rank alone (for whatever reason) and exclude the Designer and Developer rank when the exact same arguments apply to those ranks too. Why is there always so much hate against Translators?
Where did I say I feel this way? It was literally a question because in essence they don't need it as well, just like translator in your opinion. Don't say I feel in a way while I don't, thank you very much.
Because they both don't necessarily need the rank. While should we remove Translator and keep Designers? They're both a way of showing gratitude.
Ranks are not all about perms. There are plenty of workarounds.
Erghm, no? I'm making a comparison to a similar situation? There is a reason to bring this up, the fact that they are both not needed. I'm using it as an example.
To comment on this: we hit this number a long time ago so I don't see why you would even say that.
As of currently, we are at around 122 staff members. So even without the Translator staff team, we wouldn't drop below a hundred.
I don't believe this being said somewhere in the initial post?
Well yes, but I think it's safe to assume that it is easier to do so with using ranks.
But that's not needed to bring up? It's about the translator rank. Not about the other, the existence of similar situations is irrelevant...
But, is it? The choice was made to focus on the Translator rank, end of discussion. One should be bringing up arguments why the translator rank should stay. Not why other staff ranks are, following the initial arguments, are also not needed...
This isn't hate towards Translator? It's on the essence of the translation rank itself. And that it has been giving to fast for action that in his eyes don't seem worthy of the translation rank. In way do we hate/dislike the players that have been granted the rank
It's actually not what they are saying. they are just saying that arguments against only the Translator rank don't make sense because it also applies to the Designer and the Developer rank.
Why should the Translator rank (and only the Translator rank) be removed then?
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