Java [Debated Thread] Is Blockwars Core boring? Should it get removed/revamped?

Oreoino said:

Hey guys, I see you clicked on my thread. Thanks!

The reason of this thread is to debate about Blockwars core, and try to find a collective solution to this game. Cause let's be real: Core is boring.

In my opinion, Blockwars core is boring cause the games almost always last till overtime. And that's a serious problem. It also used to happen on Capture the flag when it didn't have a cap limit and the games lasted till the last second. There's a lot of problems in this. When Blockwars CTF got revamped (the best update so far imo) it got wayyyyy more fun, making games last a lot less and even make games last less than 2 minutes (counting building period) in some maps like castlewars. The problem with Core is that it's a static game; the whole purpose of it is to stand in a zone and break the core constantly until it's health reaches 0, making it way more boring and less active than capture the flag, increasing the number of people defending the core, and making the games last way more.
We'd also have to mention that those "intense" games in Core don't really exist, and if those exist, it's basically camping until overtime and go invis rush a Core.

Now to the solutions. Here is where I want most of you to comment to see if I am the only one who feels the same way about this, and if I should elaborate a suggestion thread for this.

So the first solution and the most crucial is reducing the core's health. 25 health for a core that is usually situated right next to the spawn point of the enemy team is extremely painful. Right now, with it's 25 health, it's barely imposible to get more than one or two hits to the core if the enemy team is competent. I think that reducing the health from 25 to 15 or 20 would be better and could make the games last less and more enjoyable.

The second solution is overtime; overtime in Blockwars CTF only happens if the teams are tied. In Core that doesn't happen cause instead of making the game end if someone's winning, the game continues reducing the health of both cores for a % (dunno the exact %) and makes the game even last longer. Remove this, make it like in CTF; if one team is winning even if it's by one health they win the game. End of it.

That's the only two things that come up to my head when Im thinking about improving core since I can't find any way to fix that it's a repetitive game.

About the removal of it; I don't know. It feels like an extreme measure, but I wouldn't be too bothered if it did get removed at the end.



Soooo yea, that's basically it. Looking forward to see your responses. xx

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Kqci said:

Well, i personally don't like it that much, but removing it would be hars for people who absolutely love it!
Maybe just reduce the amount of how fast/how many times Blockwars could be a Featured Game?

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AnUglyTurtle said:

For starters, I agree the gamemode is fairly boring compared to CTF. It always has been since the day it was added to Block Wars and always will fail to compare to the original CTF. I personally believe that shorter games do not make for a better game, however. Changing CTF's capturing system to 3 per game ruins the competitiveness of the gamemode and also pushes to more defending than going for the other's flags. It going the full 5 minutes left every second intense, but I guess cubecraft players don't have the patience to play a game out in full.
Back on the Chunk Core was not quite like what it is now. Instead of 25 lives, your team had around 10. Respawn times were longer and invincibility was shorter so you wouldn't have to kill, break once, run away. If you were down a life by the other team at the end, you lost and there was no overtime. I personally prefer going into overtime in this case because it just prevents someone from running in, breaking once, and camping their own core the entire game. I would understand ending the game outside overtime if the scores were about 3-5 point difference? Anything else seems unreasonable. A return to the old lives with a new overtime would probably make the gamemode much more interesting and challenging for those who know what they're doing.
Another alternative, though this is a stretch considering the small playerbase, a return of the Jail gamemode would be interesting. I believe many people back in the day preferred Jail over core, as it was a much more challenging gamemode.

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Oreoino said:

Hey guys, I see you clicked on my thread. Thanks!

The reason of this thread is to debate about Blockwars core, and try to find a collective solution to this game. Cause let's be real: Core is boring.

In my opinion, Blockwars core is boring cause the games almost always last till overtime. And that's a serious problem. It also used to happen on Capture the flag when it didn't have a cap limit and the games lasted till the last second. There's a lot of problems in this. When Blockwars CTF got revamped (the best update so far imo) it got wayyyyy more fun, making games last a lot less and even make games last less than 2 minutes (counting building period) in some maps like castlewars. The problem with Core is that it's a static game; the whole purpose of it is to stand in a zone and break the core constantly until it's health reaches 0, making it way more boring and less active than capture the flag, increasing the number of people defending the core, and making the games last way more.
We'd also have to mention that those "intense" games in Core don't really exist, and if those exist, it's basically camping until overtime and go invis rush a Core.

Now to the solutions. Here is where I want most of you to comment to see if I am the only one who feels the same way about this, and if I should elaborate a suggestion thread for this.

So the first solution and the most crucial is reducing the core's health. 25 health for a core that is usually situated right next to the spawn point of the enemy team is extremely painful. Right now, with it's 25 health, it's barely imposible to get more than one or two hits to the core if the enemy team is competent. I think that reducing the health from 25 to 15 or 20 would be better and could make the games last less and more enjoyable.

The second solution is overtime; overtime in Blockwars CTF only happens if the teams are tied. In Core that doesn't happen cause instead of making the game end if someone's winning, the game continues reducing the health of both cores for a % (dunno the exact %) and makes the game even last longer. Remove this, make it like in CTF; if one team is winning even if it's by one health they win the game. End of it.

That's the only two things that come up to my head when Im thinking about improving core since I can't find any way to fix that it's a repetitive game.

About the removal of it; I don't know. It feels like an extreme measure, but I wouldn't be too bothered if it did get removed at the end.



Soooo yea, that's basically it. Looking forward to see your responses. xx

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Oreoino said:

Hey guys, I see you clicked on my thread. Thanks!

The reason of this thread is to debate about Blockwars core, and try to find a collective solution to this game. Cause let's be real: Core is boring.

In my opinion, Blockwars core is boring cause the games almost always last till overtime. And that's a serious problem. It also used to happen on Capture the flag when it didn't have a cap limit and the games lasted till the last second. There's a lot of problems in this. When Blockwars CTF got revamped (the best update so far imo) it got wayyyyy more fun, making games last a lot less and even make games last less than 2 minutes (counting building period) in some maps like castlewars. The problem with Core is that it's a static game; the whole purpose of it is to stand in a zone and break the core constantly until it's health reaches 0, making it way more boring and less active than capture the flag, increasing the number of people defending the core, and making the games last way more.
We'd also have to mention that those "intense" games in Core don't really exist, and if those exist, it's basically camping until overtime and go invis rush a Core.

Now to the solutions. Here is where I want most of you to comment to see if I am the only one who feels the same way about this, and if I should elaborate a suggestion thread for this.

So the first solution and the most crucial is reducing the core's health. 25 health for a core that is usually situated right next to the spawn point of the enemy team is extremely painful. Right now, with it's 25 health, it's barely imposible to get more than one or two hits to the core if the enemy team is competent. I think that reducing the health from 25 to 15 or 20 would be better and could make the games last less and more enjoyable.

The second solution is overtime; overtime in Blockwars CTF only happens if the teams are tied. In Core that doesn't happen cause instead of making the game end if someone's winning, the game continues reducing the health of both cores for a % (dunno the exact %) and makes the game even last longer. Remove this, make it like in CTF; if one team is winning even if it's by one health they win the game. End of it.

That's the only two things that come up to my head when Im thinking about improving core since I can't find any way to fix that it's a repetitive game.

About the removal of it; I don't know. It feels like an extreme measure, but I wouldn't be too bothered if it did get removed at the end.



Soooo yea, that's basically it. Looking forward to see your responses. xx

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Oreoino said:

Hey guys, I see you clicked on my thread. Thanks!

The reason of this thread is to debate about Blockwars core, and try to find a collective solution to this game. Cause let's be real: Core is boring.

In my opinion, Blockwars core is boring cause the games almost always last till overtime. And that's a serious problem. It also used to happen on Capture the flag when it didn't have a cap limit and the games lasted till the last second. There's a lot of problems in this. When Blockwars CTF got revamped (the best update so far imo) it got wayyyyy more fun, making games last a lot less and even make games last less than 2 minutes (counting building period) in some maps like castlewars. The problem with Core is that it's a static game; the whole purpose of it is to stand in a zone and break the core constantly until it's health reaches 0, making it way more boring and less active than capture the flag, increasing the number of people defending the core, and making the games last way more.
We'd also have to mention that those "intense" games in Core don't really exist, and if those exist, it's basically camping until overtime and go invis rush a Core.

Now to the solutions. Here is where I want most of you to comment to see if I am the only one who feels the same way about this, and if I should elaborate a suggestion thread for this.

So the first solution and the most crucial is reducing the core's health. 25 health for a core that is usually situated right next to the spawn point of the enemy team is extremely painful. Right now, with it's 25 health, it's barely imposible to get more than one or two hits to the core if the enemy team is competent. I think that reducing the health from 25 to 15 or 20 would be better and could make the games last less and more enjoyable.

The second solution is overtime; overtime in Blockwars CTF only happens if the teams are tied. In Core that doesn't happen cause instead of making the game end if someone's winning, the game continues reducing the health of both cores for a % (dunno the exact %) and makes the game even last longer. Remove this, make it like in CTF; if one team is winning even if it's by one health they win the game. End of it.

That's the only two things that come up to my head when Im thinking about improving core since I can't find any way to fix that it's a repetitive game.

About the removal of it; I don't know. It feels like an extreme measure, but I wouldn't be too bothered if it did get removed at the end.



Soooo yea, that's basically it. Looking forward to see your responses. xx

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